Firefly - The Mafia / Firefly Mafia Round 3 /ooc discussion / Verileah 19 years ago

Firefly Mafia Round 3 /ooc discussion

Discuss!

Cobert 19 years ago

It depends, some games the mafia are active, other times they are completly silent

Cobert 19 years ago

I guess I can post these post mordem:

PM one:

Default I'm pretty sure you're innocent
I'm pretty sure Alex and Pei Pei are not.
I'm actually the sherrif and I IDed you yesterday and you came back innocent, which could mean SK or GF, but I don't think so. Mai and k.owen have also been told that I am the sherrif and that you were IDed. At least, I think it was mai. Crap. It was the person who voted last for marconi on Day one.

anyway, I'm having some pretty serious doubts about k.owen now, since he didn't vote either day, even though he was here watching and could have voted, didn't vote yet.

So yeah, my guesses at this time are Marconi, Pei Pei, and Alex han. Pei pei both because she is shielding Marconi, and because of the word "entertaining" that appeared in the scene today. another corresponded commented on the sound effect of the wrench hitting the floor. I asked for an ID on Pei pei. I hope I survive long enough to get it.

PM 2:

Believing marconi to be mafia, I did attack him pretty vigorously yesterday, which is why I thought they might hit me.

All my PMing thus far has just been to insure any information I have doesn't die with me in case I am killed. I have not been trying to find mafia via PM. That would be pointless.

So my IDs thus far have been: Ivan: Not mafia
Pei Pei: Not mafia

Though I am much more inclined to think Pei Pei is the godfather. She's been running with Jinheim, and Jinheim was happy that neither marconi nor Marko were lynched. But this all rests on the assumption that Marconi is mafia and Seryn was not. Which is not an airtight assumption. But for Jinheim to "know" that M&M were innocent is not possible.

Cobert 19 years ago

Trying to find out how many mafia there are left...

Ok Scene 1 we have 3 mafia:

group went completely still

“We want to finish her off?”

“I reckon we ought.”

#3 (God Father I'm betting)

“And I reckon not; might be we don’t want to draw attention to ourselves right about now and a dead Mayor is liable to do just that. I say we drop her somewhere and do some damage control when she comes to.”

Scene 2

Now, in the one section, there is 6 different things said, so either the three of them said two things, or two of them said three things.

“Did you see who walked out with her?”

“No, I didn’t. Do you think they suspect something?”

“Naw, I figure she was just ‘entertaining’ if you know what I mean.”

“Somehow I doubt that. Guess this plan is a wash in any case, between the unexpected guest and the little girl going into the shuttle. We’ll have to find another way to get to a terminal.”

“You’re sure neither of them drank the tea?”

“They wouldn’t have been walking around if they had. Knocks a body right out.”

I think its
1 (GF)
2
3
1 (GF)
2
3

In the last section of Scene 2 its 3 conversations too

“Guess it was a good thing she didn’t drink it.”

“Wasn’t ‘posed to kill her! Just knock her out!”

“It wasn’t our fault. She was just so little…didn’t look like she’d had a good meal in a while…wasn’t our fault she died.”

so
1
2
3 (GF)

Now in the space between scene 2-3 no one is lynched, and the SK only kills one person, so considering she was the sheriff (Or so she says), we still have all 3 mafia left. Joy.

Cobert 19 years ago

Trying to find out how many mafia there are left...

Ok Scene 1 we have 3 mafia:

group went completely still

“We want to finish her off?”

“I reckon we ought.”

#3 (God Father I'm betting)

“And I reckon not; might be we don’t want to draw attention to ourselves right about now and a dead Mayor is liable to do just that. I say we drop her somewhere and do some damage control when she comes to.”

Scene 2

Now, in the one section, there is 6 different things said, so either the three of them said two things, or two of them said three things.

“Did you see who walked out with her?”

“No, I didn’t. Do you think they suspect something?”

“Naw, I figure she was just ‘entertaining’ if you know what I mean.”

“Somehow I doubt that. Guess this plan is a wash in any case, between the unexpected guest and the little girl going into the shuttle. We’ll have to find another way to get to a terminal.”

“You’re sure neither of them drank the tea?”

“They wouldn’t have been walking around if they had. Knocks a body right out.”

I think its
1 (GF)
2
3
1 (GF)
2
3

In the last section of Scene 2 its 3 conversations too

“Guess it was a good thing she didn’t drink it.”

“Wasn’t ‘posed to kill her! Just knock her out!”

“It wasn’t our fault. She was just so little…didn’t look like she’d had a good meal in a while…wasn’t our fault she died.”

so
1
2
3 (GF)

Now in the space between scene 2-3 no one is lynched, and the SK only kills one person, so considering she was the sheriff (Or so she says), we still have all 3 mafia left. Joy.

duexe 19 years ago

If I were Mafia, Marconi would be dead already (I would have voted him off on the second townie lynch or the second mafia hit).

If you remember my rambling on the day of the second town lynching, I was extreamly unfocused (because I was dealing with my 8 month old). I forgot to even vote that day (and I nearly died because of it).

I didn't vote.
Marconi also didnt vote.

However there was a mafia hit submitted.

That tells me Marconi is not mafia.

I am also not mafia
(why would I input for a mafia hit and do nothing to save myself by simply voting during the lynch). In other words, it doesnt make any sense.

I think there are two remaining Mafia (worse case it could be three /gulp).

There is only one SK.

Laws of attrition dictate a higher chance of success in dealing with the SK first and then the Mafia.

I know what your thinking Pei Pei..."he's just saying that to save his own butt." Whatever. The evidence I've given you is pretty hard to dispute and is not based on conjucture (but proven history).

duexe 19 years ago

Cobert 19 years ago

So heres what we have so far.
First voting: Seryn (claims innocence)
Mafia hit 2: Lyn (Innocent)
SK hit 2: Sylvania (Innocent)
Voting: --
Mafia 3: Judas (Innocent)
Sk 3: Brenda (Sheriff?)

Ok, so a bad track record, lets work better in the future shall we?

Pretty sure that mafia are:

(Edited this out cause I have nfc)

But good luck to me convincing anyone =(

Cobert 19 years ago

k.owen 19 years ago

I'm willing to bet that had someone been lynched last night, we would have rid ourselves of a mafia or the SK.

k.owen 19 years ago

I'm willing to bet that had someone been lynched last night, we would have rid ourselves of a mafia or the SK.

Cobert 19 years ago

hmm, I think I should provide some logic here:

Since the number of mafia has remained unchanged, we know that all who have be lynched / killed by sk have been innocent. Thus whoever, has been voting for these innocents is either an misinformed or mafia.

Kinda funny how Marconi and Marko keeping voting for each other.. GG on kicking each other! Your both innocent!

PLEASE READ THIS EVIDENCE OK

ITS AT THE COST OF MY LIFE SINCE I"M OBVIOUSLY DEAD NEXT ROUND

Cobert 19 years ago

duexe 19 years ago

lol, Marko and Marconi continue to try to lynch each other. THEY MUST BE MAFIA!!

Haha, that makes a ton of sense. Both of us could of died the last coin flip because of the tie. WEAK..

Go back to sharpening your knives and bleeding engine coolant...

duexe 19 years ago

Jinheim 19 years ago

Most of you seem pretty sure that Marko or Marconi is the mafia. In light of the newest evidence, I think that this is both possible and probable. On day 2, though, I was not convinced. I cast a vote for neither, and the vote ended in a tie. I was happy to see them both live because at the time I thought that they were both innocent, and I still firmly believe that one of them is just a townie.

Now, work under the assumption that either Marko or Marconi is mafia, and that I am mafia. Why would I not break the tie and ensure that the townie got lynched instead of my teammate? All I had would have had to do was cast my vote for the townie, and the townie would have died for sure. Lynching a townie is basically +1 for mafia with no drawbacks. By letting it go to a tie, I risk having both of them killed (dead townie at the cost of a mafia - not a good tradeoff for the mafia) or having both live (no progress at all, therefore a worse choice than just lynching the townie). I was checking the boards up until the last minute, and could have changed my vote at any time. I am not mafia.

Jinheim 19 years ago

Rae 19 years ago

For the Sk, I still have Ivan pegged. He says the only thing there is his technical skill, but there are plenty of other clues.

Round one

A waiting sacrifice upon the alter.

Round three

and she leads me outward, to salvation.

Brenda Taylor, the unbeliever

From Ivan’s bio

Ivan's father once told him that by terraforming, they were as powerful as God. It is they who help bring life into new planets, it is they who give create new homes, new dreams. This was a reward in itself. While Ivan wasn't to keen on this romanticised version of his job, he was more then willing to honor his family by doing it to his best abilities.

You can’t look at clues just by how you perceive a character. We could all say, “My character wouldn’t do that.” Nor could you use your real life expertise in a specialized field as a basis. You may know how to sabotage an engine in real life but you can not assume that those who write the clues do. I think it is more important to view clues in a manner of how Veri and Ras see things and what is available in the bios for them to use and still make a decent story. So the fact that Ivan would say that his dad had the god complex and not him is irrelevant. What is important with these clues is the subtle religious references point to Ivan’s bio. There were not many bios with a mention of God. The obvious choice was hit by the mafia. That leaves Ivan.

Round two

It was so lonely here

Her blood was warm as it flowed down my throat, and comforting. I needed comfort. It would be some time before we would be reunited with the others, and I had so much to learn.

Round three

We are alone.

From Ivan’s bio

Going alone to a new planet was something that each member of the Vasilyevich family went through.

Sadly departing, they knew that they would eventualy be reunited at the end of the year.

Thus he was able to swallow the prospect of going to Shadow, alone.

Ivan was at best an average student. His marks were never high enough to warrent honors status, nor were they low enough to warrent academic probation.

There are a few references in the SK scenes about being alone or being lonely. Ivan’s bio discusses how he had to leave his precious wife and come to the planet alone. His bio talks about being alone more than once. In addition, the SK says he has so much to learn. Several people have plenty education, but Ivan’s bio specifically says that he was an average student. An average student would have much to learn.

Round two

This ship is my chrysalis and I am eager to emerge

Round three

The elemental rage that builds inside of me consumes my senses

From Ivan’s Bio

Occupation: Atmospheric Engineer

The use of the word chrysalis is interesting considering Ivan is an Atmospheric Engineer. To speak of the ship and the change in terms of a cocoon only has specific relevance to Ivan who must be aware of the various aspects and elements of nature. This brings us to the rage. There are plenty of pissed of characters, Pei Pei being one of them, but the word elemental is only really significant to Ivan.

Something else….

Round three

Skin tight. Suffocating.

Ivan’s Bio

Ivan beleives this helps him best expierence his work (by breathing)

Rae 19 years ago

For the Sk, I still have Ivan pegged. He says the only thing there is his technical skill, but there are plenty of other clues.

Round one

A waiting sacrifice upon the alter.

Round three

and she leads me outward, to salvation.

Brenda Taylor, the unbeliever

From Ivan’s bio

Ivan's father once told him that by terraforming, they were as powerful as God. It is they who help bring life into new planets, it is they who give create new homes, new dreams. This was a reward in itself. While Ivan wasn't to keen on this romanticised version of his job, he was more then willing to honor his family by doing it to his best abilities.

It was so lonely here

Her blood was warm as it flowed down my throat, and comforting. I needed comfort. It would be some time before we would be reunited with the others, and I had so much to learn.

Round three

We are alone.

From Ivan’s bio

Going alone to a new planet was something that each member of the Vasilyevich family went through.

Sadly departing, they knew that they would eventualy be reunited at the end of the year.

Thus he was able to swallow the prospect of going to Shadow, alone.

Ivan was at best an average student. His marks were never high enough to warrent honors status, nor were they low enough to warrent academic probation.

This ship is my chrysalis and I am eager to emerge

Round three

The elemental rage that builds inside of me consumes my senses

From Ivan’s Bio

Occupation: Atmospheric Engineer

Skin tight. Suffocating.

Ivan’s Bio

Ivan beleives this helps him best expierence his work (by breathing)

Rae 19 years ago

rofl. Marko we barely know each other and already you know me so well. You are right, that is exactly what I am going to say. I am also going to dispute your points. The fact that you did not vote but there was a mafia hit submitted does not prove that you are not mafia. What it says is that in all likelihood you are not the godfather. Even that isn't iron clad. There are plenty of reasons why you may not have made the vote but still had time to submit a SKID or to vote with the mafia on who to hit. The primary reason would be one adorable 8 month old. You could have missed the vote, but submitted the SKID after midnight. Many do not vote until late to get is much information as possible. A SKID could have been sent in early, and then you could have been waiting to vote only to get side-tracked. There are many other possible explanations for why you missed the vote. The point is you not voting does not prove your innocence.

lol, and before you say it, I have played the game here before. I was the sheriff in the Xmen game so I am familiar with how the SKIDs work.