General dissatisfaction with TBC

Well, i played Vanguard in beta and it is not a game (IMO) that you can play casually. 1-15 you can solo fairly easy depending on your class but I think that after that to complete many of your quests you need a group. I know that before it came out it was supposed to be a very group oriented game. But if you wanna try it my guild is recruiting and only raids once a week (harharhar).

I've only managed to level to 63. But my guild is beyond casual and it works for me since I don't want to do any hardcore raiding. Maybe you can find a guild on your server that fits your needs.

Hope it works out

i quit TBC after 2 months. I got my rogue and priest ot lvl 70 within the first 2 weeks of it being released. then proceeded to grind the everlivin fuck out of my reps to get revered keys ( exalted mount and such with kurenai too )

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azuremyst&n=Jadian - rogue
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azuremyst&n=Satina - priest

i worked hard, and still didnt get anywhere. The rep grind is so fucking monotonous and nauseating.



Vanguard - i cancelled right before they double the xp gain permanantly. its too buggy and unfinished for me to pay to play. I used up my 1st free month and now my account is cancelled.

for now I'm just fucking off, doing extra work, waiting for something funner to come along. in LOTR: open beta now, and GuildWars 2 sounds pleasant ( i love the 1st one )

I don't raid, and am still leveling my gnome rogue up to 70, so I'm still enjoying Wow. When I'm done leveling my rogue, I'll start working on my 42 warlock, and hopefully still enjoy it.

Wish I had a suggestion for you, but WoW is my first online game. I did try LOTR, but didn't like it as well.

this is mhy i love EQ2 - not to mention my guild!! for most things i can solo and for the rest i can always find a group (in or out of the guild) to take care of the stuff i just can't do by myself. there are things that require larger groups, but you don't have to do those. fun to stand around and watch though!!

as for the guild situation - ours is very laid back and if smoeone disappeaers for awhile you don't get hassled for having done so. you get welcomed back and they missed YOU. not your charrie or your charries abilities - but you. i've been in a fraction of my usual lately and its been neat to see what i missed while i ws gone... though i'm never gonna catch up to the Darkblaydes at this rate!!!

Go back to the darkside and play EQ1

This is why I like WoW! I solo a lot, and can quite well, but Mileron is in my guild and helps me out a lot, if I get into a fix. The rest of my guild is friendly, and the more I get to know them the more I find myself doing things with them too. Socializing is one of those things that's nice to have when you want it, but also nice to be able to avoid when you're in a cranky mood. These guys seem to play along wonderfully, in that vein.

Thanks for the comfort all, as well as the ideas. We bounced around after 1 year in WoW, back to EQ1 and even to UO. But without a good core friend base it just seems monotonous and neither of us seem willing to re-establish that. I have closed accounts on EQ2, DDO, CoH, CoV, GuildWars but LB isnt interested. Its frustrating. TBC simply ruined the game for us.

I guess I will continue spend more time in Second Life.

Heh check this out

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Hyjal&n=Keriath

Thats my war. And at first i agreed with you on the rep grins Vex. But then i just started running heriocs daily and maxed almost all of my reps out.The sheer amount of rep you gain for doing any of the heriocs makes it easy.


Now the problem my guild is having is the tranistion from semi casual raiding to hardcore raiding. We have a large guild number for the simple fact that most people are over the age of 30 and have RL obligations and can't play as much as a college kid can. We can and have run two raids to clear out the new ten man for the last couple weeks. And have started the opening 25mans. But a lot of our guild doesn't have the time to put into farming all the pots / flasks/ elixiers for every attempt so its holding us back now until they finally change up SSC / alch profession in general.

you need heroic keys (revered) to get the heroic rep gain - at which point its mainly useless unless you're going for a specific recipe/enchant.

thats the part thats fucking lame stupid boring shit.

why they can't just piggy in ( we had 1 guy that had all revered + but he was forced to grind rep with us so we could do the heroics together )

just a shitty expansion all around.

I don't think transferring or finding a different guild will be the answer because every server/guild faces the exact same issues. I used to be a part of a pick-up raid organization to the point where they promoted me to class leader (where various guild joined forces to clear MC/BWL on a regular basis), but I don't even bother looking at their board anymore. I've removed the URL from my bookmarks so there was no need for me to stay a part of an organization that was falling apart. Too many people wanted to go in different directions, no one knew how to organize DKP, the days of 40 man raids were gone when we had a roster of 120+ people. I knew TBC would kill it. We've had a few people leaving our own guild because they were restless and thought a new guild would be the answer, but I think they've found the same situation again, only new friends.

I personally think it's healthy not to rely on a single game to kill your free time. I would definitely devote some time towards your art or make a list of stuff you've been meaning to do, but never got around to. I have a HUGE box full of photos that need to be organized. I've "meant" to scan them all in and store them on disk so I don't have to carry it around from place to place when we move. We also subscribe to Netflix (we have 3 movies at any given time) and when we get a movie, we've been waiting for, we make an evening of it -- I'll make a nice dinner and he'll make the drinks/popcorn and we'll spend time together on the couch.

As for WoW, it sounds like there's a lot of patching coming up. I don't know if that will address the boredom that TBC has brought about. There's definitely no harm in trying new games -- once in a while, my husband reactivates his CoH account just for the month and he runs around looking for new quests and badges he can earn. It's fun and relaxing with no pressure/expectations. I'm personally bored with WoW because I've played the game for so damn long -- it's been what, four years? (Whenever the original alpha came out.) I'm just ready for a new game so I can have a new character, but there isn't any new MMO looming on the horizon just yet.

Take a break -- you will come back with a new focus. No game is worth getting frustrated over. It sounds like your frustrations are largely social since everyone else in your guild is frustrated, too, but you honestly can't do anything about that. Can't help their frustrations, but you can control yours by taking your mind off of it and doing something else for a change.

Thanks all! I have taken quite the break from playing WoW. I am spending more time in Second Life and also cleaning the house / decluttering and generally enjoying life. Gives me more time to read.