Hooray I can talk about it now!!!
I cried like a bitch when Dobby died. And when Percy finally pulled his head out of his ass.
I think I've converted to being a Snape fan girl tho :O
[SPOILERS] HP and the Deathly Hallows
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Laschae
18 years ago
Verileah
18 years ago
I /squeed when Percy came back. And was like 'HELL YEAH' when Mrs. Weasly was all 'DIE YOU BITCH'. The part with Snape saying 'look at me' was where I got a little wobbly and had to put the book down. Dobby's chapter was rough too, mostly because of everyone else's reactions.
Darsa
18 years ago
Hah! When Molly got all up in Bellatrix's face I cheered out loud; sobbed brokenheartedly at the Dobby death scene :cry: That was the worst death of all of 'em!! Fred was bad too tho...
The fight scene at the end rocked; Neville is my HERO!! :D And yes, Percy coming back was a fantastic addition. I loved the whole book. Loved loved loved it.
And Hermione finally kissed Ron. Sheesh. :rolleyes:
The fight scene at the end rocked; Neville is my HERO!! :D And yes, Percy coming back was a fantastic addition. I loved the whole book. Loved loved loved it.
And Hermione finally kissed Ron. Sheesh. :rolleyes:
ROzbeans
18 years ago
My assistant got to the part where Fred Weasley died. I was copying something and she said, 'Nooooooo.' I looked over and she said, 'oh my god...Fred's dead.'
'Oh is that one of the twins?'
She closed her book. 'I need to stop reading.' She was all teary eyed. I gave her a moment alone. /snicker
'Oh is that one of the twins?'
She closed her book. 'I need to stop reading.' She was all teary eyed. I gave her a moment alone. /snicker
ROzbeans
18 years ago
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2046237967
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Laschae
18 years ago
AHAHAHA That was so bad.
Jetamio
18 years ago
I knew Snape was a good guy all along. Had no idea it was cos he loved Lily though, that was a bit of a shock. Didn't cry at any part, maybe I am cold hearted :(
Mai
18 years ago
My only complaint was that the deaths of Lupin and Tonks were written like an afterthought. Two characters that have been important in the books and you don't have any idea of what exactly happened to them; they are just piled in the Great Hall like rubbish. I found that sad and rather wasteful. It seemed forced and over done like it was just to have Teddy's parents both be dead just like Harry's.
Snape being good was a no brainer, in my opinion. The fact that Harry hated him through the entire books but could never fully blame him for anything made it seem obvious. Then with the death of Dumbledore, Hagrid explains about hearing them argue and again it seemed rather plain. *shrug* I'm happy about that fact though because I always liked Snape best.
I was sad about Fred and Dobby though :cry
Molly's fight with Bellatrix is going to be cheer worthy when this book gets to the movies. Just like Hermione punching Draco. ;) My exboyfriend rewound that part and watched it three or so times once we got the dvd. ;)
Snape being good was a no brainer, in my opinion. The fact that Harry hated him through the entire books but could never fully blame him for anything made it seem obvious. Then with the death of Dumbledore, Hagrid explains about hearing them argue and again it seemed rather plain. *shrug* I'm happy about that fact though because I always liked Snape best.
I was sad about Fred and Dobby though :cry
Molly's fight with Bellatrix is going to be cheer worthy when this book gets to the movies. Just like Hermione punching Draco. ;) My exboyfriend rewound that part and watched it three or so times once we got the dvd. ;)
Laschae
18 years ago
The only thing that annoyed me was half of the theories on the net that have been floating around since HBP were right. I didn't want Harry to be a horcrux..it just seemed to obvious.
Mileron
18 years ago
Per several online chats and an interview with JKR:
After the book, leading up to the Epilogue...
Pulled from the Wiki article on HP:DH and the article from MSNBC recently.
After the book, leading up to the Epilogue...
* Harry became an Auror and later head of the Aurors' department, under Kingsley's recommendation. He owns Sirius's bike, which Arthur Weasley fixed up for him. He is married to Ginny. Due to the destruction of the piece of Voldemort's soul that resided in him, Harry can no longer speak Parseltongue.
* Ron worked for a time with George at their store, Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes, and eventually became an Auror. He is married to Hermione.
* Hermione began a career at the Ministry of Magic at the Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures, and greatly improved life for house-elves and their ilk, but later moved to the Department of Magical Law Enforcement; she helped ensure the eradication of oppressive, pro-pureblood laws. She is married to Ron. She also found her parents and removed the memory modification charm she put on them.
* Luna Lovegood has become a naturalist of sorts, searching the world for odd and unique creatures. She eventually marries Rolf, the grandson of Newt Scamander.[7]
* Ginny Weasley played for the Holyhead Harpies Quidditch team for a time, then left her athletic career behind for marriage and family with Harry. She eventually becomes the lead Quidditch correspondent for the Daily Prophet.
* George Weasley runs his joke shop with Ron, with great success. He names his first child Fred, after his late twin brother.
* Slytherin has become more diluted, and is no longer the pureblood bastion it once was. Nevertheless, its dark reputation lingers.
* Voldemort's jinx on the Defense Against the Dark Arts position was broken with his death, and there is a permannt (unnamed) DADA teacher. Professor McGonagall, who was briefly the interim Headmistress, did not assume the position after Snape. An unnamed Headmaster was appointed.
* Firenze was welcomed back into his herd, who acknowledge that his pro-human leanings were not shameful, but honourable.
* Kingsley Shacklebolt became the Minister for Magic, with Percy Weasley working under him as a high official.
* As part of the changes introduced by Kingsley Shacklebolt, Azkaban no longer uses Dementors. As a result, England is now a "much sunnier place."
* Dolores Umbridge was arrested, interrogated, and imprisoned for crimes against Muggleborns.
* The Quibbler has returned to its usual condition of "advanced lunacy", and is appreciated for its unintentional humour.
FyreGarnett
18 years ago
okay, i finally got to snag my housemates copy of this - and was pleasantly surprised that i didn't want to start smacking Harry everytime he turned around. there was way too much of that the last few books - his constant dropping into "poor me" was driving me nuts.
I was truly hoping Snape was, well not good, but at least on Harry's side in the end. Did not see the reasons though - my housemate says there was a bit of foreshadowing in one of the other books, but i don't recall it - the downside of too much time between books and not even having a copy of 6 to re-read.
on other board i hang out at, they're bitching about the violence and use of the word Bitch - granted these are aimed at kids, but i don't think this book was anymore violent than some of the others - and for the most part, the deaths took place "off screen". as to the Bitch comment - in those circumstances, I probably would have said worse even at 17!!! i swear, some people need to pay more attention to the overall media their kids pay attention to. worse happens on primetime, not to mention in pg/pg-13 movies...
I was truly hoping Snape was, well not good, but at least on Harry's side in the end. Did not see the reasons though - my housemate says there was a bit of foreshadowing in one of the other books, but i don't recall it - the downside of too much time between books and not even having a copy of 6 to re-read.
on other board i hang out at, they're bitching about the violence and use of the word Bitch - granted these are aimed at kids, but i don't think this book was anymore violent than some of the others - and for the most part, the deaths took place "off screen". as to the Bitch comment - in those circumstances, I probably would have said worse even at 17!!! i swear, some people need to pay more attention to the overall media their kids pay attention to. worse happens on primetime, not to mention in pg/pg-13 movies...
Adiene
18 years ago
"My only complaint was that the deaths of Lupin and Tonks were written like an afterthought. Two characters that have been important in the books and you don't have any idea of what exactly happened to them; they are just piled in the Great Hall like rubbish. I found that sad and rather wasteful. It seemed forced and over done like it was just to have Teddy's parents both be dead just like Harry's."
THANK YOU ... grrr I hated that part of the book. I am sure by now everyone knows Tonks if one of my favorites in the series as well as Sirius who wtf trips to his death in the books .. atleast tonks died fighting (I guess ) or would like to think so atleast since it was just kinda tossed in there who the hell knows .. fucking bullshit :(
Anyways i 'll confess I was about sobbing towards the end, the death of fred was a shocker tho .. Dobbys death was sad as well. The way she treated it was really sweet.
i wished it were Neville that called Bellatrix a bitch but was great to actually see Molly being the baddass I knew she truly was. lol!
THANK YOU ... grrr I hated that part of the book. I am sure by now everyone knows Tonks if one of my favorites in the series as well as Sirius who wtf trips to his death in the books .. atleast tonks died fighting (I guess ) or would like to think so atleast since it was just kinda tossed in there who the hell knows .. fucking bullshit :(
Anyways i 'll confess I was about sobbing towards the end, the death of fred was a shocker tho .. Dobbys death was sad as well. The way she treated it was really sweet.
i wished it were Neville that called Bellatrix a bitch but was great to actually see Molly being the baddass I knew she truly was. lol!
Mileron
18 years ago
I'm paraphrasing something I wrote on another board when a similar complaint was made...
Deathly Hallows is not a kids book.
It's a book written about 17 year old wizards and witches fighting the battle of Good versus Evil.
Compared to the first book, which takes place when Harry turns 11, with its suspenseful ending of shock and fright, and the intervening books, the "added violence" is just a natural progression in the books.
The first book, published in England in 1997, spans 7 years, with each book getting more literarily complex as the characters themselves age, through the ten years of the series' publication. So while the violence in the seventh book may be "overboard" for someone reading it at 12 or 13, it's about under par or maybe close to par for what a typical 17 year old would have been regularly exposed to.
People are referring to it as a "kids book" because the main characters started as kids... and was originally targetted at kids... but those kids aged as the years passed and the books were published.
The only people who should be legitimately complaining about the books being "too violent" are the ones who let their 13 year old kid* read a book about 17 year old wizards without reading it first themselves.
*Most kids who are 13, I imagine, have probably seen more violent movies by that age. When I was 13, we were regularly watching Willow, Major League, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Cool World, Death Becomes Her... I could go on but I'm sure you get my point.
FyreGarnett;84825
on other board i hang out at, they're bitching about the violence and use of the word Bitch - granted these are aimed at kids, but i don't think this book was anymore violent than some of the others - and for the most part, the deaths took place "off screen".
I'm paraphrasing something I wrote on another board when a similar complaint was made...
Deathly Hallows is not a kids book.
It's a book written about 17 year old wizards and witches fighting the battle of Good versus Evil.
Compared to the first book, which takes place when Harry turns 11, with its suspenseful ending of shock and fright, and the intervening books, the "added violence" is just a natural progression in the books.
The first book, published in England in 1997, spans 7 years, with each book getting more literarily complex as the characters themselves age, through the ten years of the series' publication. So while the violence in the seventh book may be "overboard" for someone reading it at 12 or 13, it's about under par or maybe close to par for what a typical 17 year old would have been regularly exposed to.
People are referring to it as a "kids book" because the main characters started as kids... and was originally targetted at kids... but those kids aged as the years passed and the books were published.
The only people who should be legitimately complaining about the books being "too violent" are the ones who let their 13 year old kid* read a book about 17 year old wizards without reading it first themselves.
*Most kids who are 13, I imagine, have probably seen more violent movies by that age. When I was 13, we were regularly watching Willow, Major League, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Cool World, Death Becomes Her... I could go on but I'm sure you get my point.
Gilae
18 years ago
I tell you what, if my son just died and some whore was trying to kill my only daughter, she'd get more than "bitch". Children know their mothers and most of them are aware to what extent their moms will go to protect them. That was Molly's role. She was a well written character...anyone who complains about that one word is a moron (in my opinion). As a mother, I wouldn't allow my son to read this book at 13 unless I thought he was mentally and emotionally able to handle the book! What's wrong with these parents that they can't control what their kids read?
I got halfway through the book and turned to my husband and was like "Good god who is she gonna kill EVERYBODY? Will she leave the poor boy with NOONE?" We had two significant character deaths before the second or third chapter! OMG HEDGWIG!! :( I was sure Ron was gonna get it when he ran off...boy was I glad he lived cause uh...Rupert Grint is becoming quite a little hottie in the movies (is he legal yet?)
My husband was pissed about the Tonks & Lupin bit too. I think it would've been better if she had discussed more about Harry's role as Godfather given that was clearly where she was going with it.
Overall, I enjoyed it thoroughly and wished it didn't end!
I got halfway through the book and turned to my husband and was like "Good god who is she gonna kill EVERYBODY? Will she leave the poor boy with NOONE?" We had two significant character deaths before the second or third chapter! OMG HEDGWIG!! :( I was sure Ron was gonna get it when he ran off...boy was I glad he lived cause uh...Rupert Grint is becoming quite a little hottie in the movies (is he legal yet?)
My husband was pissed about the Tonks & Lupin bit too. I think it would've been better if she had discussed more about Harry's role as Godfather given that was clearly where she was going with it.
Overall, I enjoyed it thoroughly and wished it didn't end!
Laschae
18 years ago
CeCe wants to read it badly and although she's only 9 if I thought she could understand the plot line (she's only read the first book and most of the second) I would let her. There are commercials on tv during the daytime that I object to more than a book. I think by the time CeCe reads the rest of the books she will be able to read the last one.
Mai
18 years ago
Yay Adiene! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that was callous.
As far as the children's book goes, its a book for young teens really. (and everyone above that age) Parents should be able to judge whether their kids are able to handle such things. Personally, I'd think the very same people that believe their kids should not read one little curse word in a book are the same people who believe the HP series is about witchcraft and is therefore evil. Its likely then that they wouldn't be letting their kids read it anyway. If you object to a subject matter then don't let your kids read the book; its that simple. I pisses me off that they yell and scream for changes to be made or for books to be banned and yet had it been something they approved of that others did not they'd be whinging about freedom of the press.
So if you don't like it then don't read it...but, please, shut the fuck up.
As far as the children's book goes, its a book for young teens really. (and everyone above that age) Parents should be able to judge whether their kids are able to handle such things. Personally, I'd think the very same people that believe their kids should not read one little curse word in a book are the same people who believe the HP series is about witchcraft and is therefore evil. Its likely then that they wouldn't be letting their kids read it anyway. If you object to a subject matter then don't let your kids read the book; its that simple. I pisses me off that they yell and scream for changes to be made or for books to be banned and yet had it been something they approved of that others did not they'd be whinging about freedom of the press.
So if you don't like it then don't read it...but, please, shut the fuck up.
MashPotato
18 years ago
Just read this one the weekend, and my thoughts are pretty much an exact echo of this ;)
One question (I might have missed it, if it was explained in the book): if Grindewald had the Wand of Elders, how did Dumbledore defeat him in battle?
Mai;84245
My only complaint was that the deaths of Lupin and Tonks were written like an afterthought. Two characters that have been important in the books and you don't have any idea of what exactly happened to them; they are just piled in the Great Hall like rubbish. I found that sad and rather wasteful. It seemed forced and over done like it was just to have Teddy's parents both be dead just like Harry's.
Snape being good was a no brainer, in my opinion. The fact that Harry hated him through the entire books but could never fully blame him for anything made it seem obvious. Then with the death of Dumbledore, Hagrid explains about hearing them argue and again it seemed rather plain. *shrug* I'm happy about that fact though because I always liked Snape best.
I was sad about Fred and Dobby though :cry
Just read this one the weekend, and my thoughts are pretty much an exact echo of this ;)
One question (I might have missed it, if it was explained in the book): if Grindewald had the Wand of Elders, how did Dumbledore defeat him in battle?