Great Leaders~

When I was still playing eq, the best times we had were when we had something to hate, to be honest. Usually another guild that we pitted ourselves against, which really helped push us to be better. Half the fun was doing what they could - only better. You do have to have that goal - although now I couldn't say what would drive me to want my guild to be successful. It helps having similar personalities, drives and ambitions.

I hear stories about eq guilds who have lazy officers who do nothing but bitch and whine. That really kills a guild spirit. I don't know, Mike was just saying the other day that the best times he had was when we were breaking the rules and killing shit. Involving the guild in that camaraderie is what kept us playing for 6 years.

*scratches head* people aren't motivated to kill things to get loot? I don't know...it's good to have inspiring leaders, certainly, but you've got to have your own drive to contribute.

I think the old saying "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink" might be appropriate here. Great leaders have a knack of making folks follow them; however; not all people can be led.

yous has my karot, sabby.

imo, the world is now too jaded to really compete like guilds used to. people are tired. they're disenchanted. its a job, not an adventure.

all these things cause people to not care.

for the last couple years i played, the only thing i cared about was having the best stats ( for awhile i HAD to fucking beat maelarya's mana pool cause she was such a fucking slut! ) and then it was omg i can't have under 100% raid attendance, and then it was "omg i need to be the first to have all X".

seriously, if the loot doesn't motivate, you need some fresh people.

*taunts Vex with teh karot~*

Crimey - you hated me more than i hated YOU. Where's the love?

If it makes you feel better, I think you disliked me more than I disliked you, when we disliked each other...

*loves on Roz*

Hate is unifying!

you hated roz too sab? or what ? im confused?

Remember the Denise incident? =x

I was psycho =-x I plead insanity~ Yea, that.

yeah i would have NEVER rememdered if roz didn't spell it out for me.

HOW DARE US! /snicker. im sure i cracked some awful jokes but i sure as hell can't remember waht they were. lol

We just seriously derailed this thread.

*sobs* I was a poser newb~ no fair...

omfg i hit 2k posts.

what the bloody hell

Ok, so yea!!!

Can True Leaders make people care??~

you started it roz :P

Personally I think if your guild is already divided between being casual and hardcore raiders - leaders aren't going to be able to unify them. It's all about progression and having the talent to actually kill those mobs.

Weren't me, I swear! Never have played EQ!!!

To keep you up to date, Mae is pretty much still a whore in game.