WoW questions for the WoW guru's

On a PvP server, do you get honor points to spend on gear just for normal PK'ing...what I mean is if you kill a player just say in......STV, do you get points for it like you would in a PvP instance...like WSG or whatever it is?

I'm debating on playing again, but My lvl 60 Pally won't have time to raid...only PvP, but no time to wait in line for 2-4 hours before getting an instance.

If you play on Azjul-Nerub(sp?) Is the wait still that long? (2-4 hours) The reply I got from the people at Blizzard was....we have no answer for you since each server is different, and it depends if there is enough players, and what time of the day...yadda yadda. Those of you on A-N that actually know can you let me know?

I guess another option would be to transfer my character to a PvP server where wait time on instances is minutes...not hours.

Thoughts, suggestions....serious ones only please. :) Thanks!

ROzbeans 20 years ago
Jardan
Im still playing on Kel'Thuzed Horde side .. didnt have any problem with BG wait time. Usually it depends on what time your actually trying to get into a BG but mostly wait time is max 10 mins. Now from what i saw on this server, Alliance side realy sucks, its rare that we lose a BG unless we are out numbered. so if any of you planing to play on Kel'thuzad i suggest to play on the horde side cuz we PWN. =p

pfft i need a new sig since i stoped playing EQ.


I'm playing on Kel, well if you want to call it playing. I find you and give you undead smooches!
Jardan 20 years ago
ROzbeans
I'm playing on Kel, well if you want to call it playing. I find you and give you undead smooches!

O.o .. hehe warrior's name is Jardan so hit me up =)
Jardan 20 years ago
Gilae
I will be back in the sig making business in a couple of months Jardan. I'll remember to come look for you :)


cool deal .. <3
ROzbeans 20 years ago
I will...WITH MY HIGH HITTING 27hp BACKSTAB! /RAWR! :teehee
Jardan 20 years ago
ROzbeans
I will...WITH MY HIGH HITTING 27hp BACKSTAB! /RAWR! :teehee


lol .. heck we can go pwn some alli noobs

this is my toon here
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?495866
fear my l33tness
ROzbeans 20 years ago
What level are you? I just started back up with a toon i had on there for Carpex's guild Leet for life. I'm only 8 right now =x
Jardan 20 years ago
ROzbeans
What level are you? I just started back up with a toon i had on there for Carpex's guild Leet for life. I'm only 8 right now =x


53 almost 54
Gilae 20 years ago
LOL I have a level 12 undead priest on that server. We should strike phear unto the alliance!
Jardan 20 years ago
If im not on Jardan then im usually playing my NE Hunter on Wildhammer server. Name is "Despirado" hes only lvl 34
Cobert 20 years ago
JARDAN AZJOL NERUB IS WHERE ITS AT

You should be happy to note, that my guild (That Anulien, Vulash, Greywood.. among others are a spart of) is like #1 on the server.. BY A LONG SHOT.
Jardan 20 years ago
Elvaiz
JARDAN AZJOL NERUB IS WHERE ITS AT

You should be happy to note, that my guild (That Anulien, Vulash, Greywood.. among others are a spart of) is like #1 on the server.. BY A LONG SHOT.

Wish i knew man .. i would have started playing on that server but i went too far now to start again =(
Jinheim 20 years ago
Mileron
In an equally geared battle, Horde have a slight advantage due to certain racial abilities.
When said Horde are geared with rank 8+ PVP gear (or in the case of AD's A-teams, 11+) against people with greens or standard UBRS/Strat/Scholo raid blues, it's a slaughter.

I found this on the Official WoW forums:


I wrote a very long, angry rant in response to that post that you pasted. I have decided to spare you all my ramblings, and I will just say this:

That guy has no idea wtf he is talking about, and is wrong on almost every point.

Paladins are far superior to shamans in AB and AV because of their ability to singlehandedly defend a flag for at least 20+ seconds against any number of attackers. This gives time for the rezzers to rezz and backup to arrive. Paladins are also starting to learn (finally) that they are much more suited to defensive roles than to offense, and they actually heal their team. They are very good at it because you can't stop them from doing it. Shamans rarely heal their team, preferring instead to cast shocks and chain lightning. They are very ineffective healers, especially when you take into account that few shamans are specced for healing.

In AV, you get really crappy honor. The only reason to go is to raise your rep so you can get the exalted rewards. The exalted rewards, however, are mostly weapons. Thus, you get very few priests and druids (both sides), because there isn't much from AV that is worth their time. Shamans and Paladins, however, all want an unstoppable force, and you get tons of each class. Thus, horde side has very few healers (since shamans dont heal, and suck at it if they do), while the alliance has lots of paladins who heal everyone. This gives them a big advantage.

Shamans might be better in WSG, but no one does WSG except on the double honor holidays. AV and AB are run nonstop, every day.

Layout of the battlegrounds is pretty much even. There is an exploit that allows alliance players to cap our AV towers through the wall, without aggroing the commander on the top floor, but it is a minor thing. Most of the things that guy said are complete fiction.

Anyways, if you're thinking of leveling a new character on a pvp server, I think you should be warned:

I have two level 60 horde characters on a server where horde is the minority, and I have multiple alts over 40. I think I am as qualified as someone can be when I say this: it fucking sucks. If you're thinking "cool, I get to fight against players I encounter as I adventure, and we can battle over quest resources or just for the sheer fun of it!", then I have news for you: You're a year too late, you should have played pvp at release. That's how it used to be, not any more. Today, leveling up on a pvp server means "cool, I get to be ganked by level 60 night elf rogues constantly, and then corpse-camped by them because they have never been laid and need to take out their aggression. Also, if I do manage to find someone my level and have a fair fight with them, if I win, they will get pussyhurt and call in everyone in the zone to camp my corpse because they have never been laid, and need to take out their aggression." If you think I'm exaggerating, ask Rasberry. I leveled up my second level 60 with her, and she's seen what it's like. Once you're 60, things aren't that much better. You don't have to deal with the lone level 60 social outcasts who roam around looking for easy prey, because most of them suck and won't engage in a fight they might actually lose. That's a plus. However, now you have to deal with level 60's who are trying to kill the same thing that you are.

No matter what you are trying to farm, chances are good that sooner or later someone else will come along from the other faction, and they will want to farm it too. If it's 1vs1, oftentimes both parties will leave each other in peace, because if you fight you'll just take turns killing each other as you're fighting mobs and no one gets anything done. However, if it is 2vs1, you can rest assured that they will kill you, because they can do so at absolutely no risk to themselves and they get honor for it. If someone is riding by and sees you fighting a mob, they will kill you because they get honor for it. As I was writing this I was fighting some scorpid in silithus and a 60 rogue and warrior rode by me, stopped, rode back, dismounted and killed me, then left. This happens a lot, and all you can really do is try to find the most out of the way place possible to minimize it. Or, drag your guildies along to farm with you.

Really, the only good thing about being on a PvP server is that if you enjoy battlegrounds (which I do, very much), you can get into them easily and quickly. I absolutely hate outdoor PvP. It stopped being fun a long time ago, when people abandoned sportsmanship and instead simply want HK's and to be assholes.
Jinheim 20 years ago
wow, that was a long-ass post. anyways, I enjoy ranting about this stuff so if you have anything else that you want rambled about in great length, let me know.
Mileron 20 years ago
Jinheim
In AV, you get really crappy honor. The only reason to go is to raise your rep so you can get the exalted rewards. The exalted rewards, however, are mostly weapons.

The mount is my reason de pvpage.


Keep in mind, AD is an RP server.
Shamans might be better in WSG, but no one does WSG except on the double honor holidays. AV and AB are run nonstop, every day.

On AD, the only WSG you see if you "/who gulch" are folks under 40, because the addition of mounts makes WSG a cakewalk in most respects.
And we can't get anyone to queue up for AV on the Horde side because they're too busy steamrolling PUGs in AB. Easier honor = better gear.
AB is open every night without fail.

Layout of the battlegrounds is pretty much even. There is an exploit that allows alliance players to cap our AV towers through the wall, without aggroing the commander on the top floor, but it is a minor thing. Most of the things that guy said are complete fiction.

I'll give you the exploit, however, I don't find out about these things unless I read about em. While I was at one time a dedicated wallwalker for non-BG exploration reasons, I'd rather be doing something "useful."
The comments about the Horde base, however, are right on the mark. You DO have to go through a convoluted chokepoint to get to the general. There IS an insane respawn time on the NPCs in the camp.

Horde folks will complain about the bridge near the mine that leads across to the Alliance fortress... well guess what, there's a whole ravine near the harpies you can ride up. I found nothing similar for the Horde, as the whole base is surrounded by a huge fence.

And I hate it when people tell me to roll Horde, because I find the races boring, the lore bland, and the areas empty and dull.
Jinheim 20 years ago
Mileron
The comments about the Horde base, however, are right on the mark. You DO have to go through a convoluted chokepoint to get to the general. There IS an insane respawn time on the NPCs in the camp.

Horde folks will complain about the bridge near the mine that leads across to the Alliance fortress... well guess what, there's a whole ravine near the harpies you can ride up. I found nothing similar for the Horde, as the whole base is surrounded by a huge fence.


You're right, our chokepoint is brutal. On my hunter, I stand on the wall and rain down death and destruction as allies try to run up the ramp, and I've seen a few mages slaughter an entire alliance raid on that ramp. However, the narrowness of the chokepoint is balanced out by the fact that it is very short, and the allies can gather safely in the tower at the base of the ramp and prepare for a charge.

As a horde attacking the allies, you've got to try to coax the raid into pushing across that long bridge where you're getting shot by the right tower the entire time. People tend to stop in the middle and engage in long range battles with the allies standing at the end of the bridge. This, of course, accomplishes nothing since both sides rezz right there. Getting people to cross the bridge and assault the bunker is, by far, the hardest part of AV for horde side. It takes at least an hour almost every time. These difficulties are made up for by the fact that we can jump into the back of the right bunker and bypass the lower level guards.

I think it's pretty even.

Oh, and there is a way into the horde base besides the gate. There are a few mounds of snow near the fence that are big enough that you can jump straight over the wall if you're on your mount. You can also get on the ledge around the upper area and enter by the waterfall at the back of our base, and you come in right by our aid station.

I think I'm going to get my gnome warrior on icecrown to 51 and do a few AV's from the alliance side. He's only a few levels away.
Gilae 20 years ago
There is no way that the lore for undead can be considered more boring than the lore for the humans. I have a human main and an undead main and even though she is a hot warrior chick, playing a human is nowhere near as interesting from a lore perspective than playing an undead.

Also, RP is lame. ;)
Vulash 20 years ago
If you want rotted boobies go for it
Jinheim 20 years ago
Vulash
If you want rotted boobies go for it


If you care about your characters boobies, please stay on alliance. thx!
Vulash 20 years ago
I care about Gilae's char's boobies
Gilae 20 years ago
I'm overwhelmed at the concern you have for my boobies...real or otherwise ;)

So Rik, wanted to let you know that last night I waited for an hour for a BG and when we got in there wasn't enough alliance to make it go. Wanted to be honest with you before you signed back up...guess it does still happen from time to time. Just before that one though I waited a total of 20 seconds...I didn't even have time to run to the mailbox to check how much money I had from the AH!