WoW questions for the WoW guru's

On a PvP server, do you get honor points to spend on gear just for normal PK'ing...what I mean is if you kill a player just say in......STV, do you get points for it like you would in a PvP instance...like WSG or whatever it is?

I'm debating on playing again, but My lvl 60 Pally won't have time to raid...only PvP, but no time to wait in line for 2-4 hours before getting an instance.

If you play on Azjul-Nerub(sp?) Is the wait still that long? (2-4 hours) The reply I got from the people at Blizzard was....we have no answer for you since each server is different, and it depends if there is enough players, and what time of the day...yadda yadda. Those of you on A-N that actually know can you let me know?

I guess another option would be to transfer my character to a PvP server where wait time on instances is minutes...not hours.

Thoughts, suggestions....serious ones only please. :) Thanks!

Anulien 20 years ago
Jinheim
You're right, our chokepoint is brutal. On my hunter, I stand on the wall and rain down death and destruction as allies try to run up the ramp, and I've seen a few mages slaughter an entire alliance raid on that ramp. However, the narrowness of the chokepoint is balanced out by the fact that it is very short, and the allies can gather safely in the tower at the base of the ramp and prepare for a charge.

As a horde attacking the allies, you've got to try to coax the raid into pushing across that long bridge where you're getting shot by the right tower the entire time. People tend to stop in the middle and engage in long range battles with the allies standing at the end of the bridge. This, of course, accomplishes nothing since both sides rezz right there. Getting people to cross the bridge and assault the bunker is, by far, the hardest part of AV for horde side. It takes at least an hour almost every time. These difficulties are made up for by the fact that we can jump into the back of the right bunker and bypass the lower level guards.

I think it's pretty even.

Oh, and there is a way into the horde base besides the gate. There are a few mounds of snow near the fence that are big enough that you can jump straight over the wall if you're on your mount. You can also get on the ledge around the upper area and enter by the waterfall at the back of our base, and you come in right by our aid station.

I think I'm going to get my gnome warrior on icecrown to 51 and do a few AV's from the alliance side. He's only a few levels away.



I skimmed through this and the even longer rant. But since Jinheim is right more than I am I am inclined to agree. AV chokepoints are balanced. Ever done an 8 hour alliance base bridge camp? They aren't fun.
Mileron 20 years ago
Anulien
I skimmed through this and the even longer rant. But since Jinheim is right more than I am I am inclined to agree. AV chokepoints are balanced. Ever done an 8 hour alliance base bridge camp? They aren't fun.


I can't understand how you'd spend 8 hours there. The only thing you'd get out of it would be the racial drops, if your NPCs are even still alive, to spawn the NPC units to help you out. Why not run down the harpy gorge and come up behind?

Keep in mind, I've done AV a grand total of once, for about 6.5 hours, so I am by no means an expert, but really... Eight hours?
I was getting bored of the bridge standoff after 20-30 minutes, so I rode down to the GY just north of Field of Strife, helped take that, and we had two groups come up behind, wipe out the priests, druids, and shamen, and finally pushed them back out of our base.
Anulien 20 years ago
Mileron
I can't understand how you'd spend 8 hours there. The only thing you'd get out of it would be the racial drops, if your NPCs are even still alive, to spawn the NPC units to help you out. Why not run down the harpy gorge and come up behind?

Keep in mind, I've done AV a grand total of once, for about 6.5 hours, so I am by no means an expert, but really... Eight hours?
I was getting bored of the bridge standoff after 20-30 minutes, so I rode down to the GY just north of Field of Strife, helped take that, and we had two groups come up behind, wipe out the priests, druids, and shamen, and finally pushed them back out of our base.


How can I spend 8 hours there? Easy, reputation. The only reason to ever do AV is to gain exhalted reputation. The honor is horrible and the people are mostly intolerable; once I finish exhalted I will never go back. /yum crit ring and +heal/regen offhand
Gilae 20 years ago
I still haven't figured out what the difference is between the different bgs. My friends only ever go to the one...is there a reason for that? Are we too low level to do the others? Is there an order of completion or something that I haven't been told about yet?

I have to say though, I'm getting way better at PK even with my warlock. People get so pissed with fear!
Mileron 20 years ago
Anulien
How can I spend 8 hours there? Easy, reputation. The only reason to ever do AV is to gain exhalted reputation. The honor is horrible and the people are mostly intolerable; once I finish exhalted I will never go back. /yum crit ring and +heal/regen offhand

That's what I meant when I said "racial drops."

But deadblocking at the bridge... yech. I want the Stormpike Charger mount :D


Gilae
I still haven't figured out what the difference is between the different bgs. My friends only ever go to the one...is there a reason for that? Are we too low level to do the others? Is there an order of completion or something that I haven't been told about yet?

There's no order of completion, no.

WSG is Capture the Flag, and for the most part the gear available from here sucks. People avoid it except for easy honor under 40 and Double Honor weekends.

AB is Resource capture... Most of the 40+ people on AD do this regularly, even on Double Honor weekends. Decent weaponry and gear.

AV is full scale war... I wish I could do this once a week, it's just so much fun. This is for 51+ only.

THere are quests to turn in Marks of Honor from the seperate BGs in sets of three; in fact there's even one major quest to turn in three marks from all three BGs. You get honor for these turnins as well as some pretty phat rep.
Rikr 20 years ago
Ok with the 1.9 patch...you can que up all 3 instances...which is a good thing yes? With being in que for all 3, odds of getting into one (any one) should be better and better...This should bring wait times down for any BG's? Thoughts? This is kinda what I'm waiting for. I'll only have a couple of hours every few days to play...so if I can get into bg's in an avg of about 20 mins or so I'll be a happy camper. I know it's hard to say really how long, but I would think this would speed things up...as I want to PvP in WoW..not level up another toon...Just don't have the time for it.

Also my gear sucks ass...so this would be a good way to earn faction / honor / gear...eventually?. I'm stoopud when it comes to PvP system in WoW...just hope I kinda get it.
Vulash 20 years ago
On some days, yes. Typically though only AB is running so it won't help, unless enough are tripling up to cause all 3 to run at the same time - it will be dependant on horde numbers queue for most nights, and I'm not sure I see that happening.