I loathe confllict and I think my tendency to try to look for the good in people on both sides of an argument tends to piss off people too. I think your response is normal, actually, not just because I sometimes get the urge to slap bullies too, but because anger is a normal human response and because if you have any kind of compassion, you generally would want to defend those who are mistreated. A bar fight is one thing, but when a person is being bullied, that person is a victim who for some reason or another is not equipped to defend himself. A bully pushes our buttons because we are aware of the pain the bully causes and the fact that the bully is not justified in doing that kind of thing. Wanting to punch out that bully is not the same as actually punching him out, and certainly not the same as BEING the bully who is violating that other person's rights. I would be more concerned about someone who was NOT angered by the things that bully did, and would question his character. I see nothing improper about being outraged by the teacher's failure to intervene and protect the students, because that too has do do with injustice and lack of accountabliity. That teacher had a professional and moral obligation to do something, and being a responsible person who observed the situation, your responses strike me as perfectly appropriate.
Now if you drive to the school with a loaded gun and blow the teacher's and bully's heads off, I would not say your response was appropriate, LOL, but feelings are normal and natural, especially when they are clearly in defense of someone who was a victim. What counts when defining whether you're vicious is your behavior, not your emotional responses.
Bully story
So I was watching CNN, and besides the tsunami calamity, there was footage of a kid beating up another in class. I dislike conflict, and it's hard to push my buttons. But seeing stuff like this activates a switch. I feel enraged, and want to punch the bully out. Teacher too for that matter, don't know what the hell he was doing.
I can't understand why I feel like this. Although I dislike conflict, I can become just as vicious. Is that normal?
zaura
21 years ago
Aziyade
21 years ago
I say yes, because I am the same way. I am very mellow and most things just roll off my shoulders, but if you manage to press a button...look out. ;)
For instance I had a good friend named Lori in junior high. We were 14 and she was undergoing chemotherapy for leukemia, so she wore a wig to cover her bald head. Some other kids thought it was a hoot to snatch it off her head. When I found out about it, I approached the bullies (there were about 15 of them) and advised them that the next person who picked on Lori would have to deal with me. I guess my expression was enough to convince them and they never bothered her again.
I have, like you, found myself feeling like I could be quite violent if needed, but never found that I had to resort to that.
For instance I had a good friend named Lori in junior high. We were 14 and she was undergoing chemotherapy for leukemia, so she wore a wig to cover her bald head. Some other kids thought it was a hoot to snatch it off her head. When I found out about it, I approached the bullies (there were about 15 of them) and advised them that the next person who picked on Lori would have to deal with me. I guess my expression was enough to convince them and they never bothered her again.
I have, like you, found myself feeling like I could be quite violent if needed, but never found that I had to resort to that.
Nektar
21 years ago
Yeah but if this bully were in front of me, I'd give it my best shot. Probably avoid the face, but cause enough pain to make him twice. Not that I'm confident I would win, but I've suffered before. Hangover flashbacks :)
ROzbeans
21 years ago
One time my best friend and I were on the city bus in Hawaii. These 2 local guys were harassing a couple up front, then would move on down the bus. They got to my best friend and I finally.
Now, I grew up afriad of conflict. I mean, really really afraid to speak out. Ironic, i know. I turned 13 and grew a chip on my shoulder the size of kansas, however. So I was about 14 when this happened.
The 2 local guys start pounding the back of our seats. My best friend was white, which already made things uncomfortable for her. They hit my seat twice and I stood up. If you know me know, you can imagine what I said uncensored at 14. I moved away from them, still cursing and they just kinda chuckled and left us alone. I hate bullies and just wont tolerate that shit.
Now, I grew up afriad of conflict. I mean, really really afraid to speak out. Ironic, i know. I turned 13 and grew a chip on my shoulder the size of kansas, however. So I was about 14 when this happened.
The 2 local guys start pounding the back of our seats. My best friend was white, which already made things uncomfortable for her. They hit my seat twice and I stood up. If you know me know, you can imagine what I said uncensored at 14. I moved away from them, still cursing and they just kinda chuckled and left us alone. I hate bullies and just wont tolerate that shit.
zaura
21 years ago
Wow, Mae, you just reminded me of something I did as a teenager, not really to a bully, but along the same lines. I was on the subway and this little boy was trying to kiss his mother, and she yelled at him to get away from her with his snotty face and shut the fuck up. I stood up, walked over to her and pretty much growled at her to pick that child up, wipe his nose, and kiss him NOW or I would make her regret it forever. She hesitated a second, then did just that. God knows how I would have handled it if she fought me on it, LOL.
ROzbeans
21 years ago
That absolutely disgusts me. Who would curse at their child like that? I'd never speak to my daughter like that and treat her worse than I'd treat a stranger. Parents like that need a good fucking slap.
zaura
21 years ago
I gotta agree with you, Mae. I never could understand how anyone could have kids if they expected kids to leave them alone. Kids are supposed to act childish; adults aren't.
Gilae
21 years ago
We've had some serial rapist wandering about Chicago the past couple of months. They aren't sure if it's one guy or a couple of guys. Last night on the news they were talking about a woman who got raped on the L downtown at 2:00 in the afternoon. I was livid...It's bad enough we have to hide at night, but a girl can't even go out shopping in the middle of the day now? Right after that they talked about some 70 year old woman who was sexually assaulted. What the fuck is wrong with these people? What kind of monster rapes a 70 year old woman...or I guess anyone for that matter? It does make you mad Nektar...makes you want to do violent and grotesque things to the guy when he's caught...since he likes raping so much, how'd he like a shovel up his ass kinda stuff. You're not alone in feeling that way...violence begets violence for sure.
ssoulz
21 years ago
Like it or not bullies teach a very important lesson. Early on, kids will learn that the strong survive. I don't agree with bullies' actions and it does at times anger me when I see a bully however because I never had to deal with bullies (no I wasn't one), I can't really relate. I do however understand that there is a lesson to be learned... as is the case with most things.
Sarah
21 years ago
I think your feelings are very normal in this situation.
I have only one bully story. I always had a solid group of friends in school and so I was never subjected to that sort of thing.
However, one day in the 8th grade, I went to switch my books for my afternoon classes and one of the football players was leaning against the locker above mine so I very politly asked him to move so I could get to my locker. He asked me which was mine, and being the person I am I showed him. "This one?" he asked, and I nodded. Then he stared to kick in my locker, when he was finished, he walked down the hall laughing.
Well, since I was a student aide I knew his name, I smiply turned on my heel and went to the principle and told him what happened. I took him out to show him my locker, gave him the boy's name and from what I understand he was expelled for his third strike.
Revenge against the big man on campus is rather nice. :)
I have only one bully story. I always had a solid group of friends in school and so I was never subjected to that sort of thing.
However, one day in the 8th grade, I went to switch my books for my afternoon classes and one of the football players was leaning against the locker above mine so I very politly asked him to move so I could get to my locker. He asked me which was mine, and being the person I am I showed him. "This one?" he asked, and I nodded. Then he stared to kick in my locker, when he was finished, he walked down the hall laughing.
Well, since I was a student aide I knew his name, I smiply turned on my heel and went to the principle and told him what happened. I took him out to show him my locker, gave him the boy's name and from what I understand he was expelled for his third strike.
Revenge against the big man on campus is rather nice. :)
ROzbeans
21 years ago
Swift kick to the nuts would've been just as good, imo. :teehee You go braitha!
Guest
21 years ago
Mae is wise...always go for the nuts.
Nektar
21 years ago
Add the embarassment of pointing to your nuts at the nurse's office. That is unless you're asking for a blowjob. And you'd still get slapped :-P
ROzbeans
21 years ago
Honestly, I know if my husband ever got into a bar fight, I'd be the first one in, feet first off the bar kicking some shit. I'm overly protective of Vebran. If someone gives him shit for something in eq...i swear I go apeshit. :o Vebran's a big guy too, he doesn't need his 5'3 brown wife defending him, but getting older, I notice that I'm quick to break a beer bottle and finish shit. =(
I have anger issues.
I have anger issues.
Gilae
21 years ago
I'm the same with my hubby...*I* can talk all kindsa crap about him, but you better believe I'll beat the shiznit out of anyone I see looking crossways at him.
He however is not a big guy...not that I think he's apt to get into a bar fight either lol
He however is not a big guy...not that I think he's apt to get into a bar fight either lol
ROzbeans
21 years ago
Yeah Mike's quiet in real life for the most part too. I swear if someone looks at us funny I'd be the first to get loud lol.
Guest
21 years ago
heh Both of us are blunt loudmouths. If someone is in our way at the store, we have no problem telling them to move their 3 chins out of the way.
In my mind, I'm a female action star. When I got into fights as a kid, I busted out some weird action scene moves, but I always won. I keep telling my fiance I want to leanr how to fight with a samurai sword, but he's afraid if I learn I'll start hunting people down like The Bride.
In my mind, I'm a female action star. When I got into fights as a kid, I busted out some weird action scene moves, but I always won. I keep telling my fiance I want to leanr how to fight with a samurai sword, but he's afraid if I learn I'll start hunting people down like The Bride.
Sarah
21 years ago
*snicker* I can just see my little 5'2 (at the time) self planting a swift kick in the crotch of his 6'something self. I could barely look up high enough to look him in the eye. If it had happened know, I would, but then, I was a small, quiet, slow to tempet band nerd. *shrug*
:D
Oh and Ryala, I am freakin mezmerized by your little dancer.
Maelarya
Swift kick to the nuts would've been just as good, imo. :teehee You go braitha!
*snicker* I can just see my little 5'2 (at the time) self planting a swift kick in the crotch of his 6'something self. I could barely look up high enough to look him in the eye. If it had happened know, I would, but then, I was a small, quiet, slow to tempet band nerd. *shrug*
:D
Oh and Ryala, I am freakin mezmerized by your little dancer.
Guest
21 years ago
LOL I get that a lot. Sometimes I watch it while I'm bored at work.
Braitha
Oh and Ryala, I am freakin mezmerized by your little dancer.
LOL I get that a lot. Sometimes I watch it while I'm bored at work.
ssoulz
21 years ago
Is this like the women empowerment movement thread?