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Round 1 - OOC

Discuss.

lemmy101 18 years ago
MEC;94182
You seem a little over-defensive.


We've all voted people for much less! ;p
FyreGarnett 18 years ago
we would never do that! lol
Verileah 18 years ago
I think of Little Red Riding Hood when I think of the big bad wolf. The big bad wolf is featured in several fairy tales, I believe. Also, maybe the title will tie into the serial kill. Think I'ma take a wait and see approach on that one. But I'm willing to consider lynching lemmy just for bringing up that Chuck E Cheese thing. Never gun live that down :(.

I think the fact that the scene specifically mentioned being in the open sea, with no wind (said a second time for emphasis, even) could mean something, but I don't know if looking into the type of ship is going to tell us anything. It might be something more subtle than that, or it might just mean the scene is scarier and stuff. *shrugs* what else are we doing here, though, save talking about stuff like this?
lemmy101 18 years ago
Sorry billie :) it's about the only defence on the matter I have at the moment.

re: Red Riding Hood... there's about 8 or so people with "red" in their profile which I would expect more of a first turn clue.
Blackrabbit 18 years ago
It was just a curiosity on my part, but perhaps worth pointing out that "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf" is specifically the title of the song sung in the 3 little pigs.

As for pig reference I thought of that too but historically we always jump on the first clue we all think is "blatantly obvious" in the first hit, which is almost never correct. The mods wouldn't write up an obvious clue in this hit. I think it's more likely to do as Billie suggested and just hold off on those thoughts for the moment and see what pops up in the next hit. Unfortunately that doesn't help anyone get through the first lynch, really. :/

Although you -are- sounding awfully over-defensive Lemmy. ;) I didn't see anyone getting out the plank yet! I'm certainly not sold on the pig theory for the time being.
lemmy101 18 years ago
Blackrabbit;94187
Although you -are- sounding awfully over-defensive Lemmy. ;)


Yeah I agree. Panicked a bit I guess being the first person fingered. I thought there was a vote tonight and that being pretty much the only solid lead anyone had I thought I'd be toast, and I enjoy the game too much for an early shower. :D
Blackrabbit 18 years ago
I hear you. I've been smoked early before and it stunk. :( Stupid Firefly mafia. *sniffle*

At any rate i don't see enough solid evidence to point fingers at anyone, and that's just about always the case for the first round or two.

*shruggle* I'm waiting for the SK to show up. I thought the first hit was supposed to be a combo thing?
Verileah 18 years ago
I think that's why there was a 'to be continued' at the bottom of the post. I know in the past players have mentioned appreciating one full day to talk about the mafia, and one to talk about the SK, so I'm guessing that's what's going on.

Anyway, the kid just explained that the Three Little Pigs was a movie and did indeed have a song. Tra la la la la! I totally didn't get the cultural reference there - I took the question literally but in the song it's rhetorical *laughs*. Kind of getting into 'neither here nor there' territory, though.

I feel like I missed something with the inkspot of fear at the beginning of the scene. I dun get it at all :\. OMG no an inkspot on my nice clean sheet of parchment? OMG an omen of DOOM? OMG a clue? I dunno :(.
CaptainBinky 18 years ago
The black spot thing is in Treasure Island and I think is a fairly stereotypical you're-about-to-die pirattey message.

In fact, info here.
SnowDragon 18 years ago
To answer the Black Spot thing this is from Wikipedia I did black spot pirates in google and this is the first thing that came up.
The Black Spot is a fictional literary device invented by Robert Louis Stevenson for his novel Treasure Island. In the book, a pirate is presented with a "black spot" to officially pronounce a verdict of guilt or judgment. It consists of a piece of paper or card, with a circular black spot in the middle and placed in the hand of the accused. It was a source of much fear because it meant the pirate will be executed.
Blackrabbit 18 years ago
Wow, grats me totally missing the crucial "to be continued."

Let this stand as a symbol of my ability to solve a mystery. *sob*
Verileah 18 years ago
Oh! That's really interesting. I never read Treasure Island, because I suck.

I'm learning all kinds of things today!

Edit: BR, no worries, I wasn't sure what the plan was either. This is nice though - less chance of the serial killer and the mafia getting mixed up.
Hiejinx 18 years ago
Ok, here's my two copper's worth. I think the 4 is significant but I also think the 2 ships being sighted together in front and mentioned first plays a part.

The only captain that has both a 4 and a 2 mentioned is Dominic. He mentions the loss of all 4 limbs and that there were 2 eye patches. Also, there is mention of the parchment and I believe that is mentioned in the kill scene.

As for the title...wasn't Jessop was born to a pig farmer? So, maybe that tells us something.

I noticed too that Morose had a yellow streak. That generally signifies fear like the little pigs had from the wolf.

I think that tells us how many and something about a few but hey, it's early. And this is first blush, so bring on the Captain Morgan Rum.

And I forgot how to get the signature thing working so I need to upload it somewhere I think.
SnowDragon 18 years ago
I have to agree Ver. The only things I can come up with about the hit is.....

1. The way the crew was hit. We know silently and it seemed cleanly.

William Cleene bio - The ship Innocence took far more cargo with the confusion her pirate colors caused in rival crews. Fights were best avoided - they were messy affairs, and got the cannons so dirty. Still, a crew must be paid, and cleaning the seas of filth seemed to be as good a calling as any. Also In the quietest mutiny ever, William poisoned the dirtiest of the crew through their rum, and strangled their new Captain in his sleep.


Ok about the flotsam this is what I found on the word when I did a search Wikipedia yet again Traditionally, flotsam and jetsam are words that describe goods of potential value that have been thrown into the ocean. There is a technical difference between the two: jetsam has been voluntarily cast into the sea (jettisoned) by the crew of a ship, usually in order to lighten it in an emergency; while flotsam describes goods that are floating on the water without having been thrown in deliberately, often after a shipwreck. Traditionally spelled flotsom and jetsom, the "o" was replaced with "a" in the early twentieth century, and the former spellings have since been out of common usage.

2. Ok either someone blew up the ship with gun powder as someone suggested (sorry can't remember who) or it was blown up by cannons. Now looking at bios I found a few references to the cannons.
A. Lilith - And while it may be slower then most vessels, it's extra thick reinforced hull and 100+ cannon make short work of anything that trys to close in on it. Flag: Solid blood red with a black halo like circle, the far edge of the flag is lined with tassels to give it a withered and old look.( Not that I really think this has anything to do with the black spot but thought I would throw it in)
B. Solomon Caine - The Privateer Frigate known as the Forlorn Hope originally began life as the HMS Somerville, a fifth-rate Royal Navy Frigate mounting 32 to 44 guns with the main battery on a single deck. A trail of looted Galleons from the Spanish Maine to burning hulks in the pirate infested seas of the Caribbean are testament to the efficiency of the Captain and his crew."
C. Caitri Ambrai-Greystone (not to leave myself out of this to be fair) - The Captain was British
She will not back away from a fight and does as much damage to English ships as she can. She has a wicked Irish temper and sharp tongue to match it. She is quick to end any argument with a quick tongue lashing or by slitting a throat.
D.
The Dread Pirate Rabbit (aka. Nola Seung) - The Dread Pirate Roberts took no survivors. Obviously, not that. In fact, the Dread Pirate seemed to make his living relying solely on reputation alone. Ships had only to see the Revenge on the horizon and the crew damn near formed a bucket brigade to dump loot and swag ino teh hold of the Revenge (The fear factor of seeing the ship on the horizon)
E. Darsa - The ship's cook managed to clamber in with her, who she dispatched with her 18th birthday present, a silver-hilted stiletto, and shoved overboard. Many years later Darsa is sailing among the pirates as a respected and somewhat feared Captain; her casual disregard for those not of her crew is legendary
F.
Captain Cristo AKA Monte - His ship is a unigue design making it seem thats its slow being a big ship and hiding its sails. The trick is that its fast depending on what sails are out. Cristo has made a unigue design thats hides his face from the men on the water by pulling strings and changing the sails. His ship can only be caught by hopes and dreams and who ever shall have the head of Captain Cristo shall have this fast flying ship the Quillette.
G. Captain Jack Blackwatern - aptain Jack Blackwater is well known to take no prisoners. A pirate as old as the sea itself many would claim, but as there have been precious few to live to tell the tale. His ship is fast, silent, and light, attacking with deadly stealth and speed. Merchant ships are often times boarded and taken over before the ominous flag is ever seen, its crew sent to the depths below

Ok this is all my brain could come up with and i am sure I missed stuff.
FyreGarnett 18 years ago
Don't worry Billie - I didn;t know the bit about the black spot either! I've learned something new today too!!

the 4 and 2 refecerence is good and worth keeping an eye out for in future posts.

And BR - I was wondering aboot the lack of SK hit as well... (cuz the "throwaway" usually is a combined.... but based on the overall setup I was getting the feeling this might just be a slightly different mafia than we've grown to love and agonize over!!!

Hiejinx - if you need a place ot upload your sig to, lemme know - i can host it and PM you a link.
Darsa 18 years ago
I'm still a little befuddled about all of this, this is my maiden voyage, as it were ;)

Still not convinced that Captain is, in fact, dead. I need to see the dead body and check it's pulse! :lol
Lillaanya 18 years ago
If we are going to mention bloodthirsty captains in this unlikely to leave any survivors I think Rosa was missed in that list

Rosa's voice, unable to rise above the level of a whisper, soon echoed through the Caribbean: "show no mercy"... for in her desire for riches, more than just her music had been taken from her.
Vudu 18 years ago
Heres what i think

The title- has nothing to do with the whose who. i believe it just states that the mafia is coming for you just like the sign of the black spot sign of death. The song also a sign of death to the pigs.

Two ships approaching- to have a fast moving ship towards you the current and air have to be set right. captain wescott's ship was not moving so the wind and current was probly now in his favor.

the one that sticks behind- has to state the godfather to see that the job gets done. i know i gotta do more research into it but thats what im locating and i know its already been stated
Den 18 years ago
Darsa;94206
I'm still a little befuddled about all of this, this is my maiden voyage, as it were ;)

Still not convinced that Captain is, in fact, dead. I need to see the dead body and check it's pulse! :lol


I think this is my fourth game, and every time I think I have a handle on it, I find it more confusing lol

Right now the only 'clue' I think is pertinent is the five mafia. However, I'd assume the SK will strike tonight and tomorrow we'll vote for one or the other. So there must be more clues in the mafia hit...I'm just not seeing them.
Vudu 18 years ago
Looking to the horizon, he noticed two ships. The first did not seem to be moving. The second? The second was heading strait for him!

The Captain gave one last look towards the ships before turning a full circle, looking for a way to escape. There was a ship moving swiftly towards them from each direction.

The Captain ran to the wheel only to discover that his first mate had been slain in the night. He yelled for his crew, but no answer came. He knew he was now alone. Standing defiant with a hand upon the wheel, he would await his fate.

Alright pulled this from the text....
Two ships one standing still again states godfather i think
one heading towards him

ships in every direction look at it as a compus North south east west 4 directions 4 mafia plus the godfather

his first mate slain in the night no sound or anything people who are skilled in swords but again were pirates who is not skilled in swordsmanship