Washington apologizing for slavery. Next...Britney Spears.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The House of Representatives was poised Tuesday to pass a resolution apologizing to African-Americans for slavery and the era of Jim Crow.


The House is poised to pass a resolution that would apologize for slavery and Jim Crow.





The nonbinding resolution, which is expected to pass, was introduced by Rep. Steve Cohen, a white lawmaker who represents a majority black district in Memphis, Tennessee.
While many states have apologized for slavery, it will be first time a branch of the federal government will apologize for slavery if the resolution passes, an aide to Cohen said.
By passing the resolution, the House would also acknowledge the "injustice, cruelty, brutality and inhumanity of slavery and Jim Crow."
"Jim Crow," or Jim Crow laws, were state and local laws enacted mostly in the Southern and border states of the United States between the 1870s and 1965, when African-Americans were denied the right to vote and other civil liberties and were legally segregated from whites.
The name "Jim Crow" came from a character played by T.D. "Daddy" Rice who portrayed a slave while in blackface during the mid-1800s.
The resolution states that "the vestiges of Jim Crow continue to this day."
"African-Americans continue to suffer from the consequences of slavery and Jim Crow -- long after both systems were formally abolished -- through enormous damage and loss, both tangible and intangible, including the loss of human dignity and liberty, the frustration of careers and professional lives, and the long-term loss of income and opportunity," the resolution states.
The House would also commit itself to stopping "the occurrence of human rights violations in the future," if it passes the resolution.


The resolution does not address the controversial issue of reparations. Some members of the African-American community have called on lawmakers to give cash payments or other financial benefits to descendents of slaves as compensation for the suffering caused by slavery.
The resolution will not be the first time lawmakers have apologized to an ethnic group for past injustices.
In April, the Senate passed a resolution sponsored by Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kansas, that apologized to Native Americans for "the many instances of violence, maltreatment and neglect."
In 1993, the Senate also passed a resolution apologizing for the "illegal overthrow" of the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1893.
In 1988, Congress passed and President Reagan signed a law apologizing to the 120,000 Japanese-Americans who were held in detention camps during World War II. The 60,000 detainees who were alive at the time each received $20,000 from the government.

ROzbeans 17 years ago
This is the most bizarre thing I have ever seen.
Vulash 17 years ago
Yea
Den 17 years ago
I hesitate to say anything, being of the Caucasian persuasion, however, this all just seems very silly to me.

How can we as a country apologize for something some of our forefathers did over a hundred years ago? If anything it would make more sense to me to apologize for the way blacks were treated in the early to mid 1900s. At least there are people alive who might have actually been responsible for that mistreatment.

Not to mention, in the same vein, when will Washington apologize for the way women were treated in history, when they were treated as property? Or the Irish...or the Asians...or the Hispanics?

I just don't see how any of this does any good for anyone. People need to be better now, and treat everyone equally now, and from this day forward.
Vulash 17 years ago
I agree with most of what you said Den. I think there is a difference between the treatment of women by a mindset of the times as opposed to slavery allowed by a government. The rest I do agree with.

I do think its possible to apologize for all of the damage still going on today because of slavery - so I don't know that I would say there isn't anything to apologize for today. I guess I just don't see that this helps anyone really. I'd rather see our efforts and time going towards fighting racism then this action.
Den 17 years ago
I suppose an apology, to me, represents the need to express regret for something 'I' did, or was responsible for. I think that day has passed. Anything now just seems hollow to me.

However, if blacks find some comfort in the apology, or any sense of resolution, then by all means, put it out there.

But do/will they?
Vulash 17 years ago
I don't think so - but I think Washington will feel a little more self righteous. I could be wrong maybe it will bring some peace to people - I just don't see it so much. I think we all already know slavery is wrong, and was a bad time in our history.

Edit: maybe self righteous is a poor choice - but patting themselves on the back so to speak. It just seems to fall far short of what should have been done long long ago.
ROzbeans 17 years ago
It's a pretty empty gesture to me.
tamaelia 17 years ago
I suppose it's a perspective thing.

Consider.

If your grandparents had been slaves, or their parents, and your whole culture and ethos is built upon the notion that you and your family by extension, are second class citizens, then something like this would be significant.

If you think it isn't then take a look at what happened in Australia recently. For the past 12 years we had a right-wing conservative government under a man called John Howard. He had been repeatedly called on to apologise to the Aboriginal people for the great injustices done to them, injustices that were legal as recently as the late 60's. He refused to say sorry on behalf of the nation. It was a significant part in why he was regarded as a mean leader. He was voted out in a huge swing against his party in November last year.

In Feb this year, our new Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, acknowledged the suffering of so many families by apologizing in Parliament to the Stolen Generation and the Aboriginal people generally. It was supported strongly by both fair skinned and dark skinned people. It was the right thing to do. Acknowledging injustice and accepting responsibility for fixing a social wrong is only empty if you don't fill it with meaning.

Take the time to learn some individual stories of slavery. Put yourself in that family for a moment. Imagine growing up knowing you were less of a human because of your origins, knowing you had less opportunity, knowing you were going to die younger and spend more time in jail and abuse substances and abuse your partner and children. You don't even consciously know this, but it's there, ever-present in the statistics that show how generational abuse affects the future generations.

So, if fronting up and saying sorry and acknowledging the wrongs is a step towards healing a generation of people, then I'm sorry. I want to be part of a solution.

This is a pretty good video that sums up the recent events:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9mJpL67QUw&feature=related

This is an excerpt from the speech made in Parliament by Kevin Rudd:

Some have asked, ‘Why apologise?’ Let me begin to answer by telling the parliament just a little of one person’s story—an elegant, eloquent and wonderful woman in her 80s, full of life, full of funny stories, despite what has happened in her life’s journey. A woman who has travelled a long way to be with us today, a member of the Stolen Generation who shared some of her story with me when I called around to see her just a few days ago. Nungala Fejo, as she prefers to be called, was born in the late 1920s. She remembers her earliest childhood days living with her family and her community in a bush camp just outside Tennant Creek. She remembers the love and the warmth and the kinship of those days long ago, including traditional dancing around the camp fire at night. She loved the dancing. She remembers once getting into strife when, as a four-year-old girl, she insisted on dancing with the male tribal elders rather than just sitting and watching the men, as the girls were supposed to do.
But then, sometime around 1932, when she was about four, she remembers the coming of the welfare men. Her family had feared that day and had dug holes in the creek bank where the children could run and hide. What they had not expected was that the white welfare men did not come alone. They brought a truck, they brought two white men and an Aboriginal stockman on horseback cracking his stockwhip. The kids were found; they ran for their mothers, screaming, but they could not get away. They were herded and piled onto the back of the truck. Tears flowing, her mum tried clinging to the sides of the truck as her children were taken away to the Bungalow in Alice, all in the name of protection.
A few years later, government policy changed. Now the children would be handed over to the missions to be cared for by the churches. But which church would care for them? The kids were simply told to line up in three lines. Nanna Fejo and her sister stood in the middle line, her older brother and cousin on her left. Those on the left were told that they had become Catholics, those in the middle Methodists and those on the right Church of England. That is how the complex questions of post-reformation theology were resolved in the Australian outback in the 1930s. It was as crude as that. She and her sister were sent to a Methodist mission on Goulburn Island and then Croker Island. Her Catholic brother was sent to work at a cattle station and her cousin to a Catholic mission.
Nanna Fejo’s family had been broken up for a second time. She stayed at the mission until after the war, when she was allowed to leave for a prearranged job as a domestic in Darwin. She was 16. Nanna Fejo never saw her mum again. After she left the mission, her brother let her know that her mum had died years before, a broken woman fretting for the children that had literally been ripped away from her.
I asked Nanna Fejo what she would have me say today about her story. She thought for a few moments then said that what I should say today was that all mothers are important. And she added: ‘Families—keeping them together is very important. It’s a good thing that you are surrounded by love and that love is passed down the generations. That’s what gives you happiness.’ As I left, later on, Nanna Fejo took one of my staff aside, wanting to make sure that I was not too hard on the Aboriginal stockman who had hunted those kids down all those years ago. The stockman had found her again decades later, this time himself to say, ‘Sorry.’ And remarkably, extraordinarily, she had forgiven him.
Nanna Fejo’s is just one story. There are thousands, tens of thousands of them: stories of forced separation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children from their mums and dads over the better part of a century. Some of these stories are graphically told in Bringing Them Home, the report commissioned in 1995 by Prime Minister Keating and received in 1997 by Prime Minister Howard. There is something terribly primal about these firsthand accounts. The pain is searing; it screams from the pages. The hurt, the humiliation, the degradation and the sheer brutality of the act of physically separating a mother from her children is a deep assault on our senses and on our most elemental humanity.
ROzbeans 17 years ago
My family is black but really, I don't care whether someone in Washington 'apologizes' or not. If you can't follow 'I'm sorry' with 'I'll never treat you like a second class citizen again or punish those who treat you that way' - well then, it's pretty empty to me.

Washington says, 'I'm sorry.'
Brown girl replies, 'That's great. Can I have a free latte with that?'
Washington says, 'No.'
Brown girl gives Washington a dirty look. 'Fuckers.'
Vulash 17 years ago
I'm sorry tam I just can't agree. I don't really want to argue over it so I'll let most of it go with just saying that I don't consider this a step towards healing people and fixing the issues. In the end it doesnt' really bother me that bad that they are doing this - it just seems like wasted effort for a political agenda, and not very sincere.

I also don't see that your "consider" and "put yourself in their shoes" are very relavent. Most peoples grandparents and great grandparents were born in the early 1900s. Your situation in Australia is different.
tamaelia 17 years ago
I guess your country might be in a different mindspace on this. It was pretty important down here and continues to be.

If you come down here, I will buy you a latte ;)

Edit to add, I am pretty skeptical of anything that comes out of Washington myself, but that's just my own pinko-leftist-commi views :P Yeah, sadly I am a bleeding heart liberal who pickets with striking dockers and campaigns for the Labor party. An original "true believer".

I don't usually get embroilled in political debate on messageboards as it is just a way for me to get too emotional and end up saying something I regret later, so I will leave it alone :) I just thought it was worth sharing a similiar event that we had but if its not relevant then feel free to skip ahead :)
Den 17 years ago
Actions always speak louder than words, imho.
ROzbeans 17 years ago
Den;99036
Actions always speak louder than words, imho.


Imagine how happy I'd be if they gave me a latte instead?
Vulash 17 years ago
I'd go for candy over a latte if I were you
Vex 17 years ago
lol this is retarded shit.

absolutely fucking retarded!

this money compensation better NOT be coming from the taxes im being forced to pay out the ass.

Cause I never abused a black person and my fuckin ancestors weren't even in america during slavery!
Some members of the African-American community have called on lawmakers to give cash payments or other financial benefits to descendents of slaves as compensation for the suffering caused by slavery.


THEY AINT SORE ABOUT THEIR FOREFATHERS BEING SLAVES. THEY JUST WANT FREE MONEY.

FUCKING CUNTS.

god ungrateful fucking twats. empty apology or not, "thanks for apologizing, can we have money now?"

fuck FUCK pisses me off.
Vex 17 years ago
i'll give em a heartfelt apology with my foot up their asses.
tamaelia 17 years ago
Laschae 17 years ago
:lol Yea what Vex said. I'm Hispanic and Irish and I don't want an apology for the shit that other Hispanics and Irish went thru when they came to this country. I mean when the Irish started flooding into America they were treated like the scum of the earth. Big deal. I will take free monies tho. I like monies. And a latte too please.
Laschae 17 years ago
Oh and where is the apology for the Native Americans? Why aren't they making a big stink over shit that happened back in the day? Have we apologized to them?
Lessa 17 years ago
good lord.. im all with den and vex