A game proposal

Back in the day, when I first started playing mafia online, things were run a little differently. In that simpler time, a moderator handed out roles and asked for SKIDS. The Godfather would respond with their hit – not just the name, but an entire scene describing how the kill should go down. The sheriff and doctor would say a few in character words. The serial killer would do the same as the mafia. The moderator would then post what the mafia wrote for the hit. Sometimes the mod would edit in a clue – but not even in every scene. Sometimes the mod might work in the actions of the sheriff or doctor. Same with the serial killer. And then sometimes the mod would not use the mafia scene at all, instead writing their own. Then the townies would have discussion time (both in and out of character), vote, and the mod would announce who was dead. Rinse, repeat – no scene for the lynch unless the mod felt like it.

This made the game a little different. Instead of clue-mining, it was more about figuring out if the mafia was trying to frame someone, or it was a double-blind sort of thing. The mafia would generally get into the spirit of things and bury in clues about themselves as well as townies. It seemed that an unintended consequence of these games, though, was that the mod would get sucked into sort of playing off all sides in order to keep the narrative flowing. So, for example, if they saw that the mafia was floundering, the mod might drop them a hint that the sheriff was dead. Or if the townies just weren’t coming together, the mod might let it slip that the doctor wasn’t who they thought it was. It unfortunately led to spoilers and people feeling a little manipulated, and like the game was too easy.

My friend David Bowles (who has played one or two mafia games on this board) and I decided to change up the way the game was run because there were a couple of things we thought could be done better. We had three sort of founding thoughts: one, that every character should have a great death scene, regardless of whether he was lynched, hit, or killed; two, that the game should be run without spoilers/direct interference from the mod/s; and three, that there should be a throwaway character to take the first round’s hits. We decided that the mods should go ahead and write all the death scenes so that we could stay on an orderly schedule rather than waiting days for the mafia to get around to writing the next death, and so that the argument of ‘who wrote this, the mafia or the mod’ would be taken out of the equation.

I think that we did a good job under the founding ideals, but we might have thrown the baby out with the bathwater. Mainly, the role play becomes minimal to the game. I think if everyone feels they have a part to play and are really acting out a role, they may feel more involved in the story – more like a murder mystery party where everyone dresses up. We have a lot of passion in these games – maybe this way, the passion would get poured into the character. So, while everyone is still in mafia mode, I wanted to run the idea of a game where the killers write their own scenes, with the mod at the helm but only steering the game (but only in character and in public, no /ooc tips or side emails) and writing the lynches past folks here.

Of course the obvious drawback to this idea is that not everyone enjoys or feels comfortable writing. So that might discourage people from signing up, and I don’t know that we would get enough to play this way. I think people would still want to play the version where the mods do all the writing, but this might be a neat change of pace. I know Roz had the idea of having a much more RP-oriented game, and this way could work really well for that.

So - thoughts?

Spirtis 15 years ago
Since I have now become Pharrens personal secretary, here is what he wanted posted: "This should be treated as a science experiment with as few new elements added as possible. Meaning no new mods, because any problems could be arising from the new mods inexperience."
ROzbeans 15 years ago
He's cheating on me with Spirtis. I am destroyed. =/
Spirtis 15 years ago
It's ok Roz, all he can talk about is you!
ROzbeans 15 years ago
Lies. You can never believe the wingman ><
Verileah 15 years ago
Can i make an argument for peer review being essential to the scientific process? (Assuming Vulash is in any way interested in co-modding with me, if not it's a moot point).
Vulash 15 years ago
I'm up for whatever. It would be easier on me to be a co-mod my first time, but if we don't have enough players that might be rough. It's really up to which perspective you would like to have for testing this :D

Edit: Editing: Edit: Pharren I'm calling you a bastard.
pharren 15 years ago
Since I have now become Pharrens personal secretary, here is what he wanted posted: "This should be treated as a science experiment with as few new elements added as possible. Meaning no new mods, because any problems could be arising from the new mods inexperience."


Actually, I said "scientific experiment", but close enough. I didn't realize he was actually writing down what I was saying word-for-word until he read back the first sentence and asked me to repeat the second. Now Verileah is throwing subtle little "science fair" jokes my way. FML.
pharren 15 years ago
New mods oh ffs someone call me and type the shit for me. How's that for rock star?


I thought the rock star thing was funny. I was working at the time, driving all over the city and trying to type my reply on my phone at red lights, and it was taking way too damn long. PS: NOBODY CALLED ME so I took matters into my own hands. Jerks.

I think a generic setting would help fix things, or at least no playing established characters.


I'll go along with whatever, but for me it would be easier to not be bounded for my first attempt. You can still use the LOTR type storyline - just not have to have those characters.


That's what I was thinking. You could easily do LoTR; you could even have it take place while the main characters are there at Elrond's house, during the forming of the Fellowship of the Ring. The characters could be servants or other miscellaneous members either in Elrond's household, or in the travelling parties. That way we wouldn't have to try and adapt to a pre-written character, and/or the mods wouldn't have to try and decide whether to base clues on the pre-written character, or the improvised revision.
ROzbeans 15 years ago
Yes.
pharren 15 years ago
Are... but... what?
ROzbeans 15 years ago
I'm all for it. Let's do it.
ShutUpSara 15 years ago
Aye! I'm interested. And open for whatever spots I can fill (giggity) I make my living writing backstory/quests/etc for vidya games, and campaigns for various pen and paper games. So if we need a generic setting, I probably have one sitting on a hard drive somewhere. Cuz that's how I roll (teeheehee)