how many babies is too many babies?

a good friend of mine insists that she wants to have four children. I'm an only child, and that seems like way too many to me.

just from a financial point of view, that's a disaster for an average couple, isn't it? I mean, Smith College is about 40k/year now, so in 20 years, that's going to be well over $100k/year. $400k * 4 = 1.6million, and that's JUST college. the cost of raising that many children is going to be outrageous as well.

financial matters aside, how can you raise four children properly? I really don't know. I think I could handle two kids, but four seems like a handful.

anyone have a lot of kids?

Vulash 20 years ago
I had a brother and sister - I guess if I ever settle down I'd want 2 or 3, but 3 is a really good number if you want the full family atmostphere.
ROzbeans 20 years ago
2 for the max for me. Well really Catherine is plenty but Mike wants more. =x I can't imagine having 4 kiddos. The expenses...zoinks.
Dia 20 years ago
depends on many things! WHat may be too many for one person could be not enough for another. I have 4 sisters and a brother. I would like a large family too one day maybe.

i'd rather be poor and happy than rich and unfullfilled. Not to say i'd have so many kids we'd be poor! One day college could be free like high schools became.

Then again i'm huge family orientated, i'd love to have a farm and all that old time stuff lol. i'm ridiculous.

My perfect family dream is: thanksgiving or christmas dinner, with my 3/4 kids and their kids running around beating on my old ass dogs and pullin the kitties tail. =D

i need to move down south!
Gilae 20 years ago
I'm planning on two. My husband is the oldest of 4 however. The third one came 10 years after the second and then they planned for the 4th as a compliment to the 3rd. His parents got divorced when he was 15 and his mother managed to raise all 4 children on her single income with some money from him and they were accustomed to a lifestyle not much different than my own. Honestly, once you have 3, you might as well have 4 imo. But I'm stickin' with 2.
Draegloth 20 years ago
two is a good number... I need to convince her of that.
Temprah 20 years ago
Well your logic is flawed.. why would the parents be paying for college for any of their kids? If they wanna go to college they can get grants and loans, no reason to burden the parents. Personally I say 2. I'm the oldest and have a younger sister. (I have an older half brother but I never count him since I didn't meet him until I was umm 15 I think) Don't go for just one, when the parents die then that child has no one. With two then they have each other. And only kids are a lot more spoiled =p Any more than 2... well that's got to depend on finances really, but kids aren't cheap and if you want to give them a lot of 'stuff' then it's harder.
Prosecution 20 years ago
3 is the number I am aiming for.

Most likely going to have 2 + 1 adopt. Thats what the fiance and I have discussed.
Xandare 20 years ago
I say none.. kids are over rated.. and besides, most of them are rather unpleasent to be around. My sister has 6 children, the family DNA is doing just fine without my help.
Draegloth 20 years ago
Temprah
Well your logic is flawed.. why would the parents be paying for college for any of their kids? If they wanna go to college they can get grants and loans, no reason to burden the parents. Personally I say 2. I'm the oldest and have a younger sister. (I have an older half brother but I never count him since I didn't meet him until I was umm 15 I think) Don't go for just one, when the parents die then that child has no one. With two then they have each other. And only kids are a lot more spoiled =p Any more than 2... well that's got to depend on finances really, but kids aren't cheap and if you want to give them a lot of 'stuff' then it's harder.

Paying for my children to go to college is something I've always planned on doing. Yes, I know they can get loans and do it themselves, and I might even encourage them to do so, but I'd be remiss in my "duties" as a parent if I didn't have the means to provide for them in every aspect. My parents have always done that for me, and I will do the same. I will, at least, be a security blanket for them until they're out on their own, and even then I will be able and willing to help them if they need it. That's what family means to me.
Maeya 20 years ago
1 is too many for me. However it's not like she'd be having all 4 babies at one time, I assume there will be a year or two at least between them.

Financially, you learn to do without, and make do with what you have. That's how you survive with more kids. Coupons, and will power =P Buying generic foods rather than brand name. Going an extra year with your jeans or your pairs of shoes. Taking advantage of "Kids Eat Free!" nights at resturants. Learning to say "No" to extravagant, unnessary toys.

My boyfriend is 3rd out of 8 + 1 adopted and numerous fostered kids. The oldest being 40, the youngest being 16 or 17. My best friend growing out was 2 out of 7. My boyfriend has 1 daughter through a previous marriage, and she's enough for me, thanks.
Draegloth 20 years ago
coupons are bad, as are restaurants and generic foods. I only eat healthy, and processed foods are not that. so, that leaves out that stuff.

I think throwing all your energy into one or two children, even if they turn out to be a little spoiled, is best.
ROzbeans 20 years ago
I'll have your baby, drae. :teehee
Draegloth 20 years ago
Maelarya
I'll have your baby, drae. :teehee

vebran would kick my ass, I think.
ROzbeans 20 years ago
Oh...good point.
blazyn 20 years ago
as long as you can support them have as many babies as you see fit. My cousin is due with her third baby next month and she just turned 24. She's married to a guy who's parents have alot of money. His dad pretty much set him up with a business as soon as he graduated college. He's pulling in over 400k a year after two years. They intend on having 6-7 kids. My cousin gets to play stay at home mom and she loves kids so i say go for it
Draegloth 20 years ago
at 400k a year, I wouldn't care... but at less than 1/4 that, I care.
Mai 20 years ago
Is 1 too many? I'm more than willing to watch the small ones for you while you go out but once they get older I'm handing them back. :winky
Sarah 20 years ago
I think that is a matter to be settled between a husband and a wife. My husband and I wanted 3 but my body broke down after 2 so 2 is all we have. Several of the mothers in my Mom's Group have 4 or more two have 5.

One of the mom's with five has two more babies planned. They are comfortable financially and she home-schools her children. They are all well behaved and polite children.

However I think the line comes when it is a woman who does not care about how many kids she has so long as the checks keep comming to pay for her addiction.
ROzbeans 20 years ago
So I'm sitting talking with my old neighbor up in Wasilla about these oil dividend checks residents get. Can range frmo 900 to 2k early. Every single member, who is a resident, gets this check. Babies included. She told me about a couple they knew who had 9 kids...count em...9. The husband worked at Mcdonalds or something, i forget, but he didnt make over 19k.

1. Dont know how they did it.
2. That's fucking wrong to have kid after kid for a check.
3. They're lieing if that's not the reason for 9.
Dia 20 years ago
unless your having babies with her, i dont think you should try and convince her of anything. Hopefully you'll be supportive of her as a very close/good friend would/should be no matter how many children she has.

Children shouldnt be thought of as financial burdens. If she and her mate are capable and wanting to take care of that many kids then it would only be right for you to be happy for her.

But you could move to china were your only allowed one child if thats how you'd really like it! :grin: