Seeing the book made into a movie.

Silence of the lambs.

I about got up and walked out when I saw this in the movie theatre. Yes its a great movie, if you haven't read the book. =/ They literally combine 2 victims into 1. That alone made me screech.

When I read a good book, something mainstream like Jurassic Park, in the back of my mind I think, 'fuck, they're going to make this into a movie'. When JP came out, again I sank down in my seat when they introduced the Park Owner/Founder. They make him out to be this lovely old man who cherishes his grand kids and would never bring harm onto anyone. Whereas in the book he's a hardened business man who would scarifice his grand kids for a buck. THEN DIES at the ending of the book, but gets away at the ending of the movie.

Yes directors and screenwriters take liberties when writing the screenplay. Sometimes book plots dont transfer over to screen as well. Plus books like IT (1k pages long) wouldnt go over as well as a 6 hr movie.

Dreamcatcher. I saw the book and bought it. Then I stopped. Again that voice in my head, 'fuck, they're going to make this a movie'. Damn if they didnt. That time I waited and watched the movie first, but of course I misplaced the book somewhere, hehe. Its probably with my Atkins Diet book.

Stephen King's 'The Shining' was an incredible movie with Jack Nicholson. Again, big differences between the book and movie. In the movie he freezes out in the maze, in the book its the hotel boiler that destroys it and him. When they decided to remake 'The Shining', this time Stephen King wrote the screenplay (approx 500 pages long) and although I only saw bits of it, they say its truer to the book AND SCARIER than the original movie.

Ah well. What say you?

Belial 20 years ago
I have to disagree with you on a couple of these:

I think Silence of the Lambs was BETTER as a movie.
#1 Jonathan Demme as director-made an incredible film.
#2 Anthony Hopkins as Lechter-OMG, just a spooky man
#3 Jodie Foster-woohoo, just a hottie! AND she can act!

I also think The Shining was better as a movie.
#1 Stanley Kubrick-need I say more?
#2 Jack Nicholson-scarier than anything I could have imagined
ROzbeans 20 years ago
Oh I'm not saying the book is always better, its just almost always different. Its perplexing. And speaking of Hannibal, yes Hopkins is an awsesome Lechter, but remember the original Hannibal? Or the original Jack Ryan (Alec Baldwin) compared to Harrison Ford who was clearly THE Jack Ryan.

Movies base on books are great on their own, but its just always bothered me when I read the book first. Also I've watched a movie and thought, 'I bet the book was better.'
Droggen 20 years ago
I agree with Mae book/movie combos are very mind wracking and irritating to me(well she didn't say that)

I hate when screenplays are no where near truthful to what the author of the original piece of art intended.

Like JK Rowlings books of Harry Potter made into movies i was so disgusted with the third movie becase it makes it's OWN big deals and that's just BS. I read the book 3 times before the movie came out being i read year one to XX year when the new book comes out so it is a better flow. But in the third movie it was so bland boring and did not pick up what I MYSELF saw as what should be emphasized and made important.

But hey what do i know, i did not win any writers awards or have anything that was held high on literary merit or standards.
Guest 20 years ago
New Shining > Old Shining

Sorry, Jack Nicholson doesn't come off as scary to me. He's more like the Joker.
Azlex 20 years ago
I'm really hoping that Eragon is going to make a good movie. I hear that it is supposed to come out next year. If no one knows what I am talking about, Eragon is a really good fantasy book that was started by a kid named Christopher Paolini that was 15 at the time and he finished it by the time he was 17 or 18 and it is all over the place. I think it is better than the Harry Potter books, yet not as good as the Sword of Truth books. Its just one of those that you have to read and see for yourself.
Aziyade 20 years ago
Princess Bride was as good as the book, imo. Different, but the key elements and feelings remained the same. I guess it helps that the author wrote the screenplay. I did in fact read the book before seeing the movie. More than once, I love that book.
ROzbeans 20 years ago
Total Recall was based on a 16 page short story called "I can sell it to you wholesale". I can't even begin to tell you how far off the movie was from the story. I loved this movie though, I thought it was incredible. Here are the smiliarities between the two though.

Arnold's character is bored.
Book's character has a birthday.
Arnold goes to 'Recall' and asks to be a spy who meets a womam with big breasts on Mars.
Book's character dreams as a child he gave a magic wand to mice who conquered the earth (or something like that.)
Arnold has aliens.
Book has alien mice.
Arnold's fantasy turns out to be true.
Book's character really did save the earth from aliens.

So they took just enough of the book's plot to credit it. My father was the one that pointed out that he read the short story. (His mind is disgusting when it comes to books, he has literally hundreds of them all over the house and he remembers everything he's ever read.) He caught the credit for the story at the end and actually found the story within a few minutes of searching.

Still, great short story and a fantastic movie.
Aziyade 20 years ago
...until the last 10 minutes. When I watch that movie, I stop before the very end because I just can't stand it. And I am a person who quite readily suspends my disbelief...
Belial 20 years ago
Total Recall was based on a Phillip K. Dick story, is that correct?
ROzbeans 20 years ago
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0806512091/104-8900150-2271133?v=glance

'I can remember it for you wholesale' by Phillip K Dick. Had it wrong. Here's a great summary on the movie. Couldnt find one for the books plot.

Reviewer: "brothersjudddotcom" (Hanover, NH USA) - See all my reviews

As I recall the movie Total Recall, it was a more interesting than usual Summer blockbuster, though still marred by excessive special effects and overlength. It had an intriguing basic premise, but the nuances of the story kept getting lost amidst all the exploding heads. The movie is based, like the equally uneven Blade Runner (see Orrin's review of the book), on the work of the cult favorite sci-fi author, Philip K. Dick. But while movie tie-in versions of Blade Runner abound (Dick's original, more descriptive, title was Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?), Total Recall is based on just a short story, We Can Remember It For You Wholesale, which is harder to find. Until that is I stumbled upon this cheesy looking, but gem filled, collection of stories by various authors, each of which is the basis for a recent science fiction film.
Dick's original short story is, predictably, a great improvement over the film, idea-filled rather than action-packed. While Douglas Quail may be a miserable little salaried employee, for the West Coast Emigration Bureau, he has one abiding dream, "Before I die I'll see Mars." Such a trip though would be enormously expensive and his wife constantly derides his ambition. Lucky for him, Rekal, Incorporated, can implant it's customers with false memories that will make it seem as if they've actually experienced their fondest dreams:

Was this the answer? After all, an illusion, no matter how convincing, remained nothing more than an illusion. At least objectively. But subjectively--quite the opposite entirely.

So Quail goes to Rekal for the Mars "extra-factual memory implant," complete with a scenario that has him acting as an agent for Interplan. Then, as the process gets underway, an unusual thing happens; under sedation he begins to recover genuine memories of a past trip to Mars. As one of the technicians explains:

He wants a false memory implanted that corresponds to a trip he actually took. And a false reason which is the real reason. He's telling the truth; he's a long way down in the narkidrine. The trip is very vivid in his mind--at least under sedation. But apparently he doesn't recall it otherwise. Someone, probably at a government military-sciences lab, erased his conscious memories; all he knew was that going to Mars meant something special to him, and so did being a secret agent. They couldn't erase that; it's not a memory but a desire, undoubtedly the same one that motivated him to volunteer for the assignment in the first place.

Realizing the gravity of their situation, the folks at Rekal hustle him out the door and refund half his money. But now Quail starts to get fragmentary memories of a Mars trip, some from the implant and some from the real trip, so he returns to Rekal to get the matter straightened out. Meanwhile, agents from Interplan, who have been monitoring his thoughts against just such an eventuality, show up to try and kill him before he can reveal the details of his secret mission to Mars. Quail convinces them to have another try at implanting false memories, but this time the genuine memories that are recovered are even more bewildering.

It's a clever, twisty story, somewhat reminiscent of a really good Twilight Zone. In addition, over the space of just twenty or so pages, Dick raises some unsettling questions about memory, desire, delusion and reality, and how they all interact in the human mind. Total Recall is a perfectly adequate way to kill a couple hours; We Can Remember it For You Wholesale, though it takes just a half hour to read, will keep you pondering for a good long while.

GRADE: A

Hijinks 20 years ago
I agree, New Shining > Old Shining. The book and the miniseries go into much greater depth of Jack's demons, whereas the Kubrick film made it just about alcoholism. And the Kubrick film is about Jack, whereas it's supposed to be more about Danny, as it is in the miniseries.

The Stand was another excellent miniseries but then I love Gary Sinise so it's hard for me to dislike anything he's in. "It" was ok, for its time - I still can't watch Tim Curry snapping his filthy fangs because it scared me at fifteen - but from today's standards it's cheesy.

Eragon is a good book, I'm anxiously awaiting the second, is it out yet? I fear the movie dragon will look like the one in Dragonheart
KassyNaVerdis 20 years ago
And what was wrong with the dragon in Dragonheart, might I ask? Remember, it was done near ten years ago, impressive for the time.

Then again, considering i was 14 when i saw it in the theater and adored it then, im probably still a bit biased. Rose colored glasses, and all that. i hadnt even heard an Eragon movie was to be made... there;s nothing listed at imdb.

I havent seen most of the movies mentioned here, since Ive got a five-year-old's tollerance for horror movies, however I have seen a few of those mentioned. Here's my two cents, and a disclaimer that i tend to be long winded and opinionated

*disclaimer* Im long winded and opinionated. This isnt intended as a flame to anyone, just my point of view.

Jurassic Park: I loved the JP movie, but I was only, what 13 or 14?, when it came out. Also, Id not read the book. I did end up reading it later and liked it as much as the movie, though it was a bit darker. The Lost World I read before the movie came out. I was horrified at the movie. JP2 had only one saving grace: a t-rex wandering around pissed off a few blocks from where i work, and eating the obnoxious rich peoples' dogs was awesome. Now, if only it had eaten my boss... *sigh* I outright refused to see the third movie, and wont be seeing the fourth.

LotR: Ive read the books, Hobbit through Return of the King, but I still liked the movies. Tolkien, badass though he was, was not the best at pacing a story - most especially for a movie audience. I thought the changes were tactful and made for better flow of the story. They worked well without changing the feeling of the story.

Harry Potter: Okay, I'll admit it, Ive read the books multiple times, and have the 6th pre-ordered. Im not about to head to a HP convention, but i would consider myself a fan. I love JKR's writing style, the clever hints that seem unimportant at the time, etc. The first two movies... well, they were entertaining in a "more popcorn, please" kinda way. Ive heard people say how wonderful that they included this detail, or that scene, but if you ask me, they were overly crowded, and felt rushed, which detracted from the essence of the story.

I liked the third movie best. I realize that its different from the book (the 3rd being my favorite book) but I think it works. They left out the bits about the mauraders, which seems to be what has most people up in arms, but what works in a book doesnt always work in a movie, and I can see why they took it out. I dont like it, but I know it needed to be done to keep the flow going. *shrug*

The only real issue i have with the HP movies is that they cast the mauraders era people too old. sirius, lupin, and snape should only be about 35 if Im remembering the books right. that said, i wouldnt give the part of Snape to anyone else. I never would have cast Alan Rickman in the first place because of his age, but having seen him in the part I cant think of anyone else who could do it better. Id be down for a little detention with Snape any time. Or Lupin, for that matter

Comic Book Movies: Okay, now you have to understand, for many years I was a very avid Marvel reader. I litterally learned to draw from reading comics, so they're very dear to me. Some of the things going on in comic movies of late are crimes. While I totally agree that changes need to be made in movies to attract an audiance that might not be interested in the source material, some of the things they've done verge on silly.

X-men: I liked both the movies... my one main complaint was Rogue and Bobby's ages. Hell, Bobby was one of the original 5 x-men when it released in 1963 - but in the movies he's a teenager. *rolls eyes* I know they needed a heartthrob and a backburner romance to keep the teen chickflick people interested, but they could have picked someone who wasnt of an age with Cyc, Jean, Storm, etc to drink from the fountain of youth. And if any of you work for Fox movie studios, here's a warning: screw up phoenix in the 3rd movie and we'll be having a conversation. in an alley. with a bat.

Spiderman: I loved the second movie. two thumbs up. the first was good, as well, except that they couldnt seem to decide whether it was a serious movie, or a cheesy, popcorn flick. serious one minute and goofy the next, i can handle, but not for an entire movie. other than that it was great. oh, and i liked kirsten dunst as MJ. She looks the part, which is all she has to do. MJ was never a particular smart cookie, just looked good in a bikini.

Daredevil: lets just move on please, the editing was too horrible to contemplate, even if the basic idea of the film was okay. and michael clark dunken was awesome. the fact that they gave Kingpin to a black actor was the least of the film's problems, if you even call it a problem. I dont, he's badass.

Fantastic Four: havent seen it, but looking at the trailers, i dont expect it to be good... I never really read too much of that comic, so maybe i'll be able to stomache the movie...

SinCity: omg *drool* cant wait... it looks so. damn. good.

okay, Im done. Really... all finished. like i said, long winded and opinionated: you were warned. Anyhoo, i'll go back to lurking now.

/lurk on
ROzbeans 20 years ago
Return of the Jedi, the newly released version.

Ok...what...THE FUCK. All the added scenery was pretty. Whee! but the ending? Have y'all seen this yet and if you have, why hasn't anyone brought this up? What is up with having Anakin from the I, II and III. SERIOUSLY? At the ending when Luke see's the ghosts of Yoda, Ben and his father...why did they change it from the actual actor from Vader's death scene to the NEW ANAKIN?

/tears up shit

Both my husband and i were...i swear to god, we were speechless. We just sat there with our mouth's open. Then I started to wig out and my daughter was like, 'I dont see anything wrong, Mommy'.

/tears up more shit.

To me that's just...unholy wrong. What was lucas thinking? I mean going back and touching up the effects and adding a little more was intriquing, but I still think the original cut was awesome. I mean if James Cameron could go back and redo Aliens...would he? No, there's no point. The theatrical release was fucking amazing, the director's cut was shit. He did right the first time.

George. George why? You're killing me, Smalls.
Rasberry 20 years ago
I'm confused... how come obi-wan has to stay old but anakin doesn't?

I thinking maybe George was one toke away from dubbing McGregor over Guinness for all three films!
Guest 20 years ago
As a rule, Ive never liked the movies better than the books. But I have a very vivid imagination when it comes to books, so its more like a movie being played out in front of my eyes when i read, rather than words. And then when i do see the movie, I get upset, cause the characters arent like I imagined them. So I see a movie first, then read it, or dont see the movie at all unless its a really big hit film that everyone said I need to go see hehe. But that isnt to say i dont like the movies either. The first jurassic park, for instance, I loved the movie, didnt finish the book. But the second one ( THe Lost World) I loved the book and made fun of the movie. Never saw the third, tho of the dinasour land, Raptors are my fave

I just like books better. Give me a room void of anything but a comfy chair and a good book, and youve got a happy happy person
Starry 20 years ago
KassyNaVerdis, I almost completely agree ^_^.

And Im with you with the bat.

Funny story, there was this lady in Dallas that does the movie reviews for the paper. She went to see XMen on opening night, and complained about 'freaks' dressed up. And she went 'blahblahblah' through the whole movie, and then said that 'she could not believe peoples loyalty, a main character DIED and the 'fans' were happy'. Basically she said we were all morons and didnt know a REAL story.

She got SO MUCH Mail, calls, emails, and actually COPIES Of the Phoenix saga that she got pulled from movies and had to print a retraction about the story.

DONT mess with Marvel fans.

And dont make me roll initiative, either.

(PVP Joke, weee).
Vulash 20 years ago
The worst is I, Robot. For some reason it really gets under my skin. It isn't my favorite book by any means, though I liked it. I never even expected the movie to be good, there was no hype, and I waited months just to watch it on DVD casually cause my parents had rented it over christmas.

The reason it nags me I think is because it has almost NOTHING to do with the book. I mean most movies turn the stories into far stretches from the book, but this has no reason being named the same, or for them to even legally say "based on". The only thing they kept was the 3 laws and the very end concept (which was also changed heavily - only very large overview of "why" was the same, not even the ends to it). I won't ruin the end in case there is actually someone out there that cares.

Then I'm in the bookstore and see the short stories reprinted with Will Smith on the cover. Thats when it just went to far and now bugs me completely.


Btw I did enjoy the movie - it wasn't "great" but I had fun watching it.
Sarah 20 years ago
The reprinting part bothers me, too Vulash.


Though to play devil's advocate for a moment. This particular screen play was written based on Asimov's world, not the story itself. They took the world and the concept and wrote a new story.

The one that bothers me the most is first Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Personally they could have stayed a little more closely to the book and still made a good movie, which is why I'm really looking forward to the new one. Not to mention it has Johnny Depp in it.
Guest 20 years ago
I fucking hate when they reprint books with movie photos. I won't buy any of that BS.
Yalelini 20 years ago
The Da Vinci Code-


God this book was amazing, I really loved it and it kept me wanting to finish it with every page I read. I saw that they're making a movie out of it. I'm really looking forward to it because I heard that its exactly like the book. But, like most books to movies, I'm sure it would be good=X