Round One: OOC

Talk amongst yourselves here

SnowDragon 18 years ago
Ahhhhhhhhh so many theories and so many names being thrown out there. They are all very good theories and my brain is about to go on manual overload trying to figure out what is what. (LOL I am loving playing this for the first time)
MEC 18 years ago
These children had just lost one of their own to an apparent suicide, but their expressions were as inscrutable as ever. Did he detect a look of naked shock on one student’s face before they schooled their expression? Did a few of them look more uncomfortable than sad? He knew that his imagination was filling in the emotions he was expecting; it was impossible for him to tell for certain.

The students, though, were many times more adept at reading these sorts of situations.


This also caught my eye, perhaps referring to Teresa?
pharren 18 years ago
i am not buying the parkour link. i think that my SK --> golden rubbish mime thing link was a lot stronger.


i dont think its a good idea to assume somebody whos bio makes them seem a little crazy is the SK (or anything, really) even though its our automatic reaction, because: the role assignment has NOTHING to do with the bios. the clues are written to match the bio afterwards, not the other way around. its too easy to say "well, domo is obviously off his rocker, and the SK is crazy, therefore domo is the SK!" and we end up lynching townies that way. or worse.


something we havent even thought about:
we can infer that pinual's death was made to look like a suicide. we can also infer that he damn sure didnt choke himself to death, meaning he must have been hung by the neck from the socks attached to something.

The gravity there was slightly higher than earth’s; it would make the job that much easier.

from this i take two things:
1.) pinual was hung (see above!)
2.) the killer is strong enough not only to lift pinual, but to lift pinual in a gravity even higher than earth's

who is a big tough guy? (or girl)
pharren 18 years ago

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These children had just lost one of their own to an apparent suicide, but their expressions were as inscrutable as ever. Did he detect a look of naked shock on one student’s face before they schooled their expression? Did a few of them look more uncomfortable than sad? He knew that his imagination was filling in the emotions he was expecting; it was impossible for him to tell for certain.

The students, though, were many times more adept at reading these sorts of situations.
This also caught my eye, perhaps referring to Teresa?

that could just as easily be a clue telling us teresa is the sheriff. seems like a clue to me, either way.
lemmy101 18 years ago
Azig. I still point out the fact that I was defending someone who had a very clear clue pointing that they were the SK. Whatever Fyre says there's no point in me trying to lead townies down a merry path if I'm gonna get lynched in the process. Obviously I'd persue that to the end and accuse the one who seemed more likely to take the fall for me.

This does seem like a like for like thing for me pointing out Dantes came up a few times, so I suspect you may be doing exactly the same as I did not do to Domo, jumping on an easy target, which is not a good idea for a townie.

Dantes certainly has enough evidence pointing at him. Nice idea posting some weak evidence about yourself to ook like Mr. Honest, while jumping on the bandwagon to accuse someone to take your place on the noose! :) Who knows though, you may not be the SK... you might be mafia... either way I doubt you want the real SK to swing... hell, you might just be a townie who's maybe about to help do something guaranteed to make the mods chuckle...

I dunno... I think I'll have to collate all the evidence against you, post it alongside the empathy rap against me (and my argument before that was brought up), and let people be the judge.
MEC 18 years ago
I'm also looking for clue's possibly referring to extremely late entrances to battle school, abnormally tall children, or being a third or forth or fifth etc...

:P
Keera 18 years ago
The soldier slid down the pole to the lower deck, landing soundlessly at the bottom, and padded along to the exercise room. The gravity there was slightly higher than earth’s; it would make the job that much easier.


Ok, so the gravity is higher than earth's, either I am completely stupid or that would make the job harder hence everything being much heavier. I believe it would be much harder for a small frail child to slid down a pole in an environment where you weigh MORE than you do on earth. Dantes is a fit muscular built child and would have no problem sliding down the pole with ease so he could land without sound which requires greater strength than just sliding down the pole all willy nilly.
MEC 18 years ago
I believe that it's referring to the choking aspect of being hung.
lemmy101 18 years ago
Against Dantes

Dantes is a fit muscular built child and would have no problem sliding down the pole with ease
re: “Wrong. Answer.”

I think that this may be referring to Dan (Dantes Jean-Paul Valentino Villanova), because of the whole choose the correct answer and the implications an answer to his own question in his character bio.
I think the SK has to be either Dantes Jean-Paul Valentino Villanova, ABAY, Ezekial Rainsfeld, Emilio Salvaggio, or Armando Salvaggio who are all 13.

23:00 hours is way past everyone else's bedtime - hee hee! :p
I have to agree that right off the bat there's strong reason to suspect Dantes. He's tall for his age, and it does sound like the speaker to Pinual is taller. His bio places a lot of importance on winning (paintball tournament victory),
Also your eagerness to vote to hang someone as SK many hours before the end of voting, though not said because you're not online later, seems like your mind is made up. Sure you can change your vote... but what's the hurry? Is this a witchhunt? Why do you want someone else to take that SK rap so bad?

Against Teresa

The SK seems quite... empathetic to me :wink... Teresa Sol is an expert at reading body language and understanding emotions, she might have realized the inner turmoil Pinual was going through and want to end his misery. In addition, she's also been used as a pawn of the teachers for unknown reasons (the SK's inner monologue seems to suggest past experience with that), and she's older.

Shepard--> little bo-peep--> female?
And that's it? Sure it fits, but really thinking about it, it's not really that solid a ground to make a decision right here and now... The Shepard thing is a bit flimsy really, as we've discovered that word can be interpreted many ways and can be applied to practically 3/4 of the players... considering I took the focus OFF a perfect fall guy to take the blame if I *were* guilty, am I really going to hang off that one thing? :\

I'll keep looking for other clues, but I'm not going to vote you as guilty yet as I'm sure there's plenty more insights to come, and unlike you I want to make sure I don't hang a townie. Hell, assuming I live that long, tomorrow I can make a much more informed decision (as clues come in).
Blackrabbit 18 years ago
Actually Keera, you'd think with things weighing more because of heavier gravity, it would make it that much easier for a small child to slide down a pole... not harder. The small child would weigh more then they might on earth.

They landed soundlessly, which also speaks to either a light frame (the bigger they are, the harder they fall), or to some measure of strength and/or athletic ability that would have given them the training to do so.
Keera 18 years ago
MEC;86289
I believe that it's referring to the choking aspect of being hung.


Aye, I was also just pointing out that sliding down a pole with ease would not be that easy for a weak undeveloped child and agree with the point Pharren made about the hanging aspect.
Blackrabbit 18 years ago
Also, while posting clues (not defending him, just trying to keep things clear) - Dantes is either the SK or Mafia, if you're trying to pin him with something, stick to one thing.

He can't be the athletic SK if he's the "wrong answer" mafia man.

I'm not arguing for/against one or the other, just pointing out that it's not possible for him to be both. So obviously some of your interpretations/inferences are incorrect.
MEC 18 years ago
I think that this may be referring to Dan (Dantes Jean-Paul Valentino Villanova), because of the whole choose the correct answer and the implications an answer to his own question in his character bio.


When I said this I was saying that I felt he might be Mafia, possibly the Godfather, not the SK.

Edit to add: Also, I haven't voted for anyone yet.
lemmy101 18 years ago
Also, while posting clues (not defending him, just trying to keep things clear) - Dantes is either the SK or Mafia, if you're trying to pin him with something, stick to one thing.

He can't be the athletic SK if he's the "wrong answer" mafia man.

I'm not arguing for/against one or the other, just pointing out that it's not possible for him to be both. So obviously some of your interpretations/inferences are incorrect.


Yeah, well sure... I'll concede that. But they still polint to *evil*.

And this quick vote breathes *agenda* to me... be that a mafia agenda or SK agenda, it just doesn't seem to be the behaviour of a townie who wants to make sure they don't accidently kill their own guys.

Like jumping on Eduardo for the 11 - 23 thing I think is a bit of a stretch, yet he's his #2 suspect... all seems like either he doesn't care who dies as long as it's not him (SK) or knows who he doesn't want to die (Mafia)

Just my view on it....
The Azig 18 years ago
Against Dantes


Also your eagerness to vote to hang someone as SK many hours before the end of voting, though not said because you're not online later, seems like your mind is made up. Sure you can change your vote... but what's the hurry? Is this a witchhunt? Why do you want someone else to take that SK rap so bad?
I work this evening until 8 or 9. So no, I wont be around this evening, and imagine by the time I get home there will be a huge pile of posts to read through given the activity this morning. So pardon me for not posting my RL schedule for ya - but I'm voting now since we're expected to vote daily, and I might not be back early enough to do so later.
The Azig 18 years ago
lemmy101;86286
Azig. I still point out the fact that I was defending someone who had a very clear clue pointing that they were the SK. Whatever Fyre says there's no point in me trying to lead townies down a merry path if I'm gonna get lynched in the process. Obviously I'd persue that to the end and accuse the one who seemed more likely to take the fall for me.

This does seem like a like for like thing for me pointing out Dantes came up a few times, so I suspect you may be doing exactly the same as I did not do to Domo, jumping on an easy target, which is not a good idea for a townie.

Dantes certainly has enough evidence pointing at him. Nice idea posting some weak evidence about yourself to ook like Mr. Honest, while jumping on the bandwagon to accuse someone to take your place on the noose! :) Who knows though, you may not be the SK... you might be mafia... either way I doubt you want the real SK to swing... hell, you might just be a townie who's maybe about to help do something guaranteed to make the mods chuckle...

I dunno... I think I'll have to collate all the evidence against you, post it alongside the empathy rap against me (and my argument before that was brought up), and let people be the judge.


Ok, attack and counter-accuse me for having an opinion and voicing it. I'm not attacking anyone, and I'm not bandwagoning, as I posted my thoughts behind my opinion. It's not just "yeah! She looks guilty!" Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.
I stand by what I've thought so far, and invite folks to convince me of something different. I'm going on what I've seen. Or am I over thinking the scenes and relating them too specifically to the characters?
Keera 18 years ago
I declare shananagins. That is all.
lemmy101 18 years ago
The Azig;86297
Ok, attack and counter-accuse me for having an opinion and voicing it. I'm not attacking anyone, and I'm not bandwagoning, as I posted my thoughts behind my opinion. It's not just "yeah! She looks guilty!" Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.


attacking is such a strong word, it's just a game :) that said I'm being wrongly accused and risk being lynched on day 1 because of it, so I don't think that counts as protesting too much :) And I've not formally accused you yet, just saying the evidence against me isn't that substantial and I find your keenness for me or Eduardo to be the SK off not that much evidence, both people who mentioned your name, a little suspicious...

I've already conceded that you might be a townie who's just making a mistake :p

anyway let's not just go back and forth accusing eachother, and continue lookiing for more clues... if people find more to make me SK then so be it, but I can't imagine people will.... I'll keep looking for clues it's the only way to make an informed choice...
CaptainBinky 18 years ago
Blackrabbit;86247
Who in their right mind would post on this thread and say "Oh btw, I'm not a townie?"


No-one obviously, but that's not the same thing as as saying "I'm not a townie" in the same way that when a teacher says "who threw that?", the kid that pipes up, "not me!", blatantly threw it.

On top of that, the person that pipes up next to defend you... Bizzbizz... well now you're just looking like two mafia in league with each other. Could be innocent... might not be. But it all smells a bit "I'm Spartacus" to me.

But but...

Blackrabbit;86247
This is the first mafia I've played in about 9 months


Well this is my first mafia game ever so I don't really see the relevance. I'm just calling it as I see it.

:D

CB
Jinheim 18 years ago
Blackrabbit;86244
Four mafia and a SK can completely devastate a group of townies. We're not so numerous that we can blow off a day. :P


How do you know there are four mafia? With 20 players I would expect five, maybe even six mafia based on what we've done in past games.