Help please

first lemme say i love the hair! great color too ^.^

the eyes look male to me only because thats is how male dra queen/emo kids do their make up! =D But it can still be female punk! I think if you softened the jaw line some more it would help. Its a bit sharp. The nose does contribute to the male look but you said thats wip so i dont worry about it too much! Her top lip is thin and that can give an impression more toward male.

basically women are just more curvy than angly. even sickly thin ones. My biggest c/c is the chin tho. You could even give her a little mole like monroe! thats how sassy she looks. I want that hair cut =D

Thank you Dia! /hug

Made her jawline a lil softer -
Made her upper lip a lil fuller -
Finished her nose -
Gave her chin a lil more umph -



She still has a bit of a drag queen look, doesn't she?
Is it just me?

CC 10 is welcome on this one for sure. =)

I agree with Dia...the hair is awesome.

I'm not too good with drawing faces, but her nose seems kinda wide and flat, maybe make it a tad thinner, and pop out more if that makes sense. The other thing that makes her look drag queen like is her lips are really thin and tight looking. I think she'd look more girly if her lips were fuller and softer looking. To me, it isn't the eyes that are making her look manly, it's the tip of her nose, mouth and chin area.

Perhaps thin out the eyebrow some as well but I agree with Merreck on the lips

The hair is awesome looking, good job!

Everybody pretty much hit was I was thinkin, but you could possibly open up her eyes a little more too. The eyelashes remind me of a MAC ad and that hair is rockin! I bet she'll start looking more feminine when you finish those tittays.

Had to spin this throuhg PS to figure out what was wrong... It's the japanese villain syndrome you have going there I think...
Her eyes: this one came as a bit of a surprise, but I think they're a tad too broad. Not the white stuff, but the "outside". If that makes any sense.
Her jawline: more roundness!
Her nose: too flat and too broad at the end.
Her lips: hmm...actually pretty good as they are.

Hope that helped

OK, I held a piece of paper up and looked at the pic slowly more and more, helps the progression of girl...girl.. ack, guy. The eyebrows need to be much thinner, with a nice arch to them. The nose is OK until I reached the tip, something too masculine about it. And her bottom lip needs to be much fuller, think pouty! That's some serious manly lippage right now. And IMO your bottom lashed aren;t longer than the top ones! That's adding to the fake eyelashes - drag queen feel too I think. Oh, and on her right cheek give it a little more softness maybe, to take away from the manly angularness of the face. And it you can I would try to soften the jaw a little more, her chin is very prominent and full, or try moving the mouth down just a hair to take away from thechin's length a little.

Temp brought up a good point...them are some manly eyebrows. But it's still the nose, chin and bottom lip that seem "masculine". Mostly the nose. If you cover her face with your hand, the bottom half is definitely the part that makes her look male. I think the original mouth looks more feminine.

I think I figured out was making her look manly, at least to me...the cleft (is that the right word for this?) above her upper lip is very pronounced, on females I don't notice it standing out as much as on males. Removing the dimple on her left (our right) cheek might help add more round/softness. Hopefully that makes some sense.

Her chin is very pointy to me. Perhaps softening that a bit?

Give the lady some bewbage too, that will help her look more feminine ... I think? :P

/drools over the hair

You guys kick ass. =)
I haven't even started on her bewbage yet, that'll be a total paintover once I get her face done.

I'll post an updated one in a few.

/hugs and naughty ass gropes all around

Ok:
- got rid of the dimple on her cheek
- thinned out her eyebrow
- took off her bottom eyelashes. It's a new little thing I'm trying out with the eyelashes, I'll wait to dabble in that until I can grasp making a female face more. =)
- her nose...goddamn noses. They suck. Is the nose any better? A paintover of her nose is more than welcome if you can show me the light on it.
- changed the shape of her eyes slightly
- Softened her cheek / jaw area
- Worked on the chin some. Too pointy is manly, too square is manly...hopefully I found common ground.
- Moved the lips down some to get rid of excess chin
- Got rid of the prominent dip above her lip
- Oh, gave her a little bewbage to satisfy those of you who needed it so badly. =P
- Gave her a little smile with teeth showing... opinions on that?
- I'm jotting down here what I'm doing as I'm doing it...and keep going back to the nose. Maybe she could become a chibi? They usually don't have noses!

You're welcome to CC her body, but as ya can see, I'm just starting on that here and there.

> Link with bewbage showing <

And the one with a big ol black box on teh nipples.

wow! she is very pretty, Immy.

HI2U nipples!

HUGE improvement in the fem department. As for the nose, I'd widen the highlight of the bridge a tad and create more of a midtone on the very side. Also add some darker shading around her nostrils.

Wow, her skin looks so smooth!

/applauds feverently

much better! the teeth are a great touch! She great!

Like the others said, it's a great improvement, but I have to agree with Ryala on the nose. Ohh and mm...the breasts aren't the same size, but I don't think I was ment to give cc on that...

MAJOR improvement!!! Again the only thing I can add is the nose needs a touch more shading. Oh and personal preference for me but I would squish in the nostril area so it isn't so wide, more elfish to me to be dainty.. /shrug

Love the teeth. Looks like a woman to me! Time to move on to the rest (*wink wink nudge nudge*)

Thanks so much for the help guys.
I won't get a chance to work on this one again until the week-end, once I'm done I'll post the finished product.

/hugs all around

I really appreciate the CC. =)

Wow I'm like MASS late but it looks great, Immy! I was going to say the nose made it look more masculine but you fixed that nicely. LETS SEE THE BITS! =D