Say Anything.

'Say Anything' is a John Cusak/Cameron Crowe 1989 teen flick. ' A noble underachiever and a beautiful valedictorian fall in love the summer before she goes off to college.' This is actually not what this thread is about, but the message is the same.

Actually no it isn't, I just like imdb.com and the title sounded interesting. /snort

This is not necessarily a vent thread - far from it. This is about saying anything - weather, the bird outside your work window, the fundamental differences between Mormons and catholics, how Law and Order Criminal Intent doesn't get the props it deserves, that I always forget whether it's 'it's' or 'its', that my daughter has a beautiful smile and the first guy that breaks her heart - I'm breaking his knees...it's about anything.

So, say anything.

Vulash 14 years ago
Not really what the first post sounded like
ROzbeans 14 years ago
Vulash;109578
Not really what the first post sounded like


Yeah.
Vebran 14 years ago
Vulash;109509
I could drill through 5/8 drywall with my finger and some spit


That's what he said! Hey oh!
Vulash 14 years ago
Vebran;109585
That's what he said! Hey oh!


I felt like an old man for saying that. Now I feel like a dirty old man
Laschae 14 years ago
Some teachers suck badly. I never knew til I had kids. In the 1st grade Kami's teacher quit to move to Norway and she got stuck with a series of subs that neither cared nor knew how to deal with an emotionally sensitive kid. It wasn't until we moved here to Wyoming that she had a teacher that went way beyond and helped her. She couldn't even read until she was 8 because they just kept passing her to the next grade. It was a real eye opener when Erik's mom would rage about how much she hated some of the kids she taught. I just thought teachers were these super caring people and some of them are not.
ROzbeans 14 years ago
My facebook is covered in Steve Jobs statuses. RIP, cool dude.
Laschae 14 years ago
Ugh I did not realize the person that commissioned me was a priest....and so I said some silly shit like "Oh you want sexy just been screwed hair?" and other silly little shit and now I feel like a douche. ><
ROzbeans 14 years ago
Priest play wow? I mean...you know what I mean lol. Could have been worse, could have dropped some f-bombs :makeout
Laschae 14 years ago
Yeah I know right?! And I almost said so you want freshly fucked hair.... I didn't put two and two together that this guy on facebook friended me was the guy commissioning me. I looked at his profile saw how he was dressed and ignored it.

So I had a phone conference with Kami's principle and counselor because Kami has been complaining about kids picking on her and when they called they said there was in incident on the play ground. So of course she comes home and says nothing happened at recess. I guess she was picking on a little kid and got him on the ground and was sitting on him. I don't even know what to do with her. She has no concern for anyone's feelings but her own and she doesn't seem to care. Last year her teacher said that sometimes she says stuff that's hurtful and I talked to her about it and about how her opinions are not always meant to be told to everyone but still she doesn't care. So now she's all woe is me I am being abused but she's just as bad.
ROzbeans 14 years ago
Kami's your oldest right? My 12 year old is going through the tween angst phase and I just want to smack her and tell her to snap out of it! I totally remember what she's going through though - 12 is fucking horrible.

Is the school offering any advice or additional counseling?
Laschae 14 years ago
CeCe is oldest and by far the easiest to deal with lol. I dunno what is wrong with Kami...well I mean I DO but how do I 'fix' her personality? Up until CeCe started junior high last year it's not been too bad. CeCe would help Kami out with other kids and so she was doing ok but now that there's no CeCe to keep her in line she's been doing her own thing. We talked about how she does like to pick fights, likes to argue, likes to impose her thoughts on other people and she has been in counseling with their school counselor since 2nd grade. Her counselor even said she really doesn't know what to do at this point to help Kami.

Kami said these twins were bugging her on the bus and I said ok do not sit by them, take a book on the bus with you and READ it and ignore everyone and just try and get thru a 30 minute bus ride. But she wouldn't even give it a shot. I think that since she's not able to force these kids to be friends with her she would rather have enemies. I dunno I will give it another shot of talking to her. I'm not happy that she lied to me about what happened at recess especially since I really pressed her about it and told her that the school called.

I dunno what's worse 12 year olds or 3 year olds.
ROzbeans 14 years ago
At least with the 3 year old you can blame it on them being 3. Catherine doesn't get that =/ Why can't David do the dishes or the laundry? BECAUSE HE'S THREE - CLEAN YOUR ROOM, DAMN IT! Who was that one comedian who thought his name was 'Damn it' growing up? lol

I thought it was your oldest that was hassling her youngest sister that one time - ruining one sister's artwork? Was that your middle one doing that? Man, kids are hard. I wish shit could get fixed and wrapped up in 30 mins like on TV. Catherine's doing ok, but puberty is just tearing her up something awful. She cries at the drop of a hat - obsesses on her friends and hates them at the same time. The damn inner circle, and on my god I can relate, all that middle school shit that I was so glad to leave behind. For me, I just tried to be class clown and make people laugh to avoid disparaging comments directed toward me - just hoping to skate by without drawing too much negative attention to myself. But god forbid you get ousted from the inner circle. /sigh It's like I'm reliving junior high and I DO NOT LIKE IT.

God willing it's a phase with your daughter, Laschae. We all go through that shit to some degree in school. It's so easy to look back and tell them 'oh don't sweat it, it's not a big deal' but Catherine reminded me today that 'just because i say it's not a big deal, doesn't mean it doesn't feel like one'.

Damn her for being smart.
Eve 14 years ago
Bill Cosby thought he was Jesus Christ growing up, his brother was dammit LoL "Dammit get in here!" "But Dad, I'm Jesus Christ!" *thwap* We just watched that old stand up the other day.

Sorry I have no insight for ya Erin. Not having to deal with that shit is a major bonus for me LoL Dealing with just Gypsy is enough without adding in all the other drama that would come knocking if she actually went to school.
ROzbeans 14 years ago
Does that worry you though, Eve? Not exposing her to the crap that is middle school, when she does, for example, go to college; she could potentially be missing out on valuable coping skills? No disrespect, I'd home school Catherine if I wouldn't end up locking her in her room and pull all my hair out.
Laschae 14 years ago
Yeah it was CeCe what poked holes in Kami's painting and the kid she did it with is banned from my house. That was the second time they did something like that. Plus I looked at my keylogger and they were being super douchey to other kids in some chat room and talking about masturbation and shit sooooo....but that's like the worst thing CeCe's ever done. Sometimes you have a friend and when you are with that friend you do stupid shit together. I get it I had one of those. I just don't want my stuff or house destroyed while they do their stupid shit.

I think part of Kami's problem is she wants to social climb. She wants the cool kids to like her and instead of valuing the friends she has she is trying to worm her way in with these other kids. And instead she annoys the fuck out of them so Kami starts being an asshole. I can see her doing that. I think it's starting to get to the stage where she is going to try and glob onto the first guy that she can get her hooks into and THAT worries me. I can see her getting pregnant at 15. :( So now I'm sort of waiting for this stupid shit to blow over to get to the next even worse level of stupid shit. Erik is not down with me forcing the girls on birth control but I don't need to be a grandma at 35.
Eve 14 years ago
Yeah I worry about the lack of social skills sometimes, but not having to deal with her picking up bad habits, or being lead into trouble she probably wouldn't have thought of on her own, far outweighs those worries for me anyway. And believe me, there are days I'd love nothing more than to lock her in her room LoL It's just kinda funny to me, because in some ways she's so mature, but she's still got the child like innocence when it comes to other things. I don't know, I guess I just feel like if she's got time to mature, and actually -be- a kid without the influence of some of the brats other people seem to be raising (not directed at anyone here just the way I see kids act out in public around here and in my own neighborhood), maybe she'll cope with it all in her own way.
Dia 14 years ago
My little kid update, for the last 2 days Joeys won the golden coin for being the best behaved in the classroom. He also won a certificate of achievement that also came with a free kids meal coupon at Wendy's. Unfortunately it has been expired since last July. public school fail =/

Laschae I'm not looking forward to that stage, the step kids are 9 and 11 but so far they are uneventful *crosses fingers* I don't know if it would do any good but maybe have your daughter watch one of those bullying movies and then write a paper on how bullying effects lives. Thats what we do in the youth home when the girls are acting like fools. Sometimes they write a lot of papers. ABCFamily just had a cybering bully movie a couple months ago so at least its made recently and not too jenky. She sounds liek she has low self esteem from what your saying and worrying about for the future. Maybe as a punishment make her volunteer at a dog pound or horse ranch cleaning up poop. Animals have a good way of teaching kids lessons about themselves, plus poop is gross!
Laschae 14 years ago
Oh she'd love that she gets along with every animal she comes in contact with. She already does the cat box so I think she's over the poop rofl. They said they were going to work on helping her be a better friend to the friends she has. One of her friends recently told her she was done with her ass because Kami ditched her to go play with other kids when they had a sleep over. Kami just doesn't get how to behave around other people. They think it has a lot to do with how much she depends on CeCe and that we need to work on helping her have friends that aren't CeCe without ruining their relationship.

I got James a coloring book last night because he's been up my ass the last week and he really seems to like it. Now that winter is coming and he has no desire to be out in the cold and wet I gotta find stuff for him to do that isn't ruining the house or breaking things. Who says I don't have a job?
pharren 14 years ago
Dia
I don't know if it would do any good but maybe have your daughter watch one of those bullying movies and then write a paper on how bullying effects lives.


But from what she says, Kami is being bullied herself. Isn't it enough to simply point out that what the kids are doing to her that she doesn't like, she is turning around and doing to yet other kids? "How does it make you feel when ________ ? Well, then how do you think it makes _________ feel when you __________ ?"

But I guess if that isn't working, there's always the poop!


EDIT:

Laschae
She already does the cat box so I think she's over the poop rofl.


Well, scratch that idea
ROzbeans 14 years ago
Catherine watched some bully movie the other day that was way more explicit than any tween movie I've seen lately, which actually I thought was a good thing. The bff from Hannah Montana was the main character in it - someone started a rumor about her and it escalated out of control and she tried to kill herself. She ended up in therapy with kids in her school who got bullied as well. One girl was ready to go all Columbine which surprised me.

I think our girls are just at that age. You cling to the friends who don't seem as interested in you and ditch the ones that are. What can you do - I didn't learn my lessons till that shit got reversed on me and even then not until I was way way older. Well, I do know what to do, but it's hard with two kids. Catherine WANTS attention - it's gotten to the point where good or bad, it doesn't matter. When I put David in daycare and took her and her bff out for laser tag, I had never seen Catherine so happy. Made me feel horrible - it's hard when you have a 3 year old who monopolizes your time. I look at Catherine and I see FREE BABYSITTER which is harsh, I know. We had a really fun time that day - hard when it's just one parent though. I do plan on doing more one on one things with her though - maybe try that, Laschae?