Say Anything.

'Say Anything' is a John Cusak/Cameron Crowe 1989 teen flick. ' A noble underachiever and a beautiful valedictorian fall in love the summer before she goes off to college.' This is actually not what this thread is about, but the message is the same.

Actually no it isn't, I just like imdb.com and the title sounded interesting. /snort

This is not necessarily a vent thread - far from it. This is about saying anything - weather, the bird outside your work window, the fundamental differences between Mormons and catholics, how Law and Order Criminal Intent doesn't get the props it deserves, that I always forget whether it's 'it's' or 'its', that my daughter has a beautiful smile and the first guy that breaks her heart - I'm breaking his knees...it's about anything.

So, say anything.

Gongaa 14 years ago
Also, the whole thing seems to center around the idea that being fat somehow makes you a better person than someone who is not fat. That's fucking retarded.

I'm guessing this was written out of frustration with a society that's so superficial that it treats fat people like they're worth less than thin people. The fact that the writer made it through the entire thing without realizing the hypocrisy in slamming thin women simply because of their weight and justifiably engaging in ritual suicide isn't exactly helping her make her point.

A woman's weight is somehow proportional to her wisdom and knowledge? Here's a simple counterexample to that stupid fucking assertion: Marie Curie was skinny as fuck and won 2 Nobel Prizes. Real ones, not the "peace" prize. Her daughter was even skinnier and also won a Nobel. The two of them combined had enough knowledge for a whole bus full of people, and together they probably weighed about as much as moderately fat person.

Jesus, even when I read that shit it's in an whining voice that makes me want to club a baby seal. HULK SMASH.
Mileron 14 years ago
On the other hand, as men, we don't go through nearly as much of the superficial judgement that women go through, that women scrutinize other women with. (There are exceptions, naturally.)

The only things I've recently been told I could be "judged on" appearance wise are my lack of a wristwatch (haven't worn one in over 10 years, being a desk jockey who types all day long) and my lack of a tucked in shirt (I crawl under peoples' desks. I'm not tucking it in unless I'm wearing slacks.)

It bothers me (understatement) when my fiancee, who is very comfortable with herself, and who also works as a manager for a plus-sized womens' clothier, can be so frustrated with other womens' negative self-judgement and low self esteem due to their weight.

I've dated women that were wider than me, and women that I could snap like a toothpick. I like women with meat on their bones and curves and severely dislike the mass-media fetish with women that are less fluffy.
Vebran 14 years ago
Are you kidding? Yeah we are. Try being a fat guy, an effeminate guy, a non-masculine guy. Just because the standard is different doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Guys go to the gym for the exact same reason women do, who do you see in the weight room and who do you see in cardio room. The percentages are almost inversely proportional to the sexes.

What type of guy do you see in commercials, ads, or lead roles in movies? Not the fat guy...Jonah Hill? anyone?

That type of post that I referenced is a self-justification for not eating right, exercising, etc. You know why I exercise? (Well aside from being the military and it is part of my job) Because it keeps me healthy. Do I like, eh kinda. I hate using up an hour, hour and half a day because that is time that I could spend at home, or with my family. But I can walk and maintain a level of stamina when the average person can't walk up two flights of stairs without being winded.

Now this may seem like an attack, but honestly if you are comfortable with your body and your way of life, good for you. But to use a justification that the world is enforcing a body standard and use that as a reason why you are (sticking it to the man/system/global pan-revolution) it ridiculous. Accept yourself but also accept the consequences of your life's decisions either way.

*Just as aside my consequences are increased pain in my shins, knees, etc from running. Every decision come with some either way.
ROzbeans 14 years ago
When I was heavier, it really didn't bother me. I love to eat. I love food. And Mike (points up) never said a word to me about my size. He's cool like that. Yes he'd comment on my diabetes and get on me about eating candy, but never with references to my self image. Why do I go to the gym? Because I suffered through surgery to help me control my eating portions and I'll be DAMNED if I'm going to get skinny-fat. Why go through the pain and ignore the maintenance?

I do hate posts like that as well. It's bullshit. You're heavy because you're not doing anything (or don't want to) to be healthier. I sure as shit didn't do anything until I couldn't stand on my feet for more than 15 mins. I'm not skinny now by any means, but yelling 'I'm fat and I'm proud' is just as annoying as a skinny bitch yelling the opposite.
Gongaa 14 years ago
ROzbeans;109779
When I was heavier, it really didn't bother me. I love to eat. I love food. And Mike (points up) never said a word to me about my size. He's cool like that. Yes he'd comment on my diabetes and get on me about eating candy, but never with references to my self image. Why do I go to the gym? Because I suffered through surgery to help me control my eating portions and I'll be DAMNED if I'm going to get skinny-fat. Why go through the pain and ignore the maintenance?

I do hate posts like that as well. It's bullshit. You're heavy because you're not doing anything (or don't want to) to be healthier. I sure as shit didn't do anything until I couldn't stand on my feet for more than 15 mins. I'm not skinny now by any means, but yelling 'I'm fat and I'm proud' is just as annoying as a skinny bitch yelling the opposite.


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Gongaa 14 years ago
Lol, what if a really fat mathematician said "I don't just have curves, I have manifolds."


lol



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*crickets*
pharren 14 years ago
You could get lost in them forever
Jetamio 14 years ago
I started going to the gym about 6 weeks ago. Quite simply because I do want to be healthier. I want to be able to run for the bus when I'm late for work and not have a heart attack. (If it's dry, and I have time, I'll walk, but its 45mins lol). Within two weeks I could see the difference in my arms and my legs, but I still have the gut and that's the bit that bothers me most. I want to wear skirts and dresses again, and not look ridiculous. That's my goal.
Dia 14 years ago
My puppy got nuetered today =(
I feel terrible for him, he's mopey and pathetic acting.
My poor guy!
ROzbeans 14 years ago
My mother in law is visiting - this is seriously cutting into my Dragon Age 2 time.
Gongaa 14 years ago
*bitez nailz*
Nards 14 years ago
That post is a cop out for being lazy and not wanting to address a problem. Trust me, I have been there.
ROzbeans 14 years ago
Anyone doing nanowrimo this year? Just finished my 2010 nanowrimo story, 67k total words. I'm excited about this year's. Should be fun.
Verileah 14 years ago
I should, I have a head full of story :\. Just don't think I can make it a priority though :(.
Britt 14 years ago
I should see if Ashley is going to do a nanowrimo. She tried last year and failed miserably because of shcool, but now that shes out she should have enough time. I still need to read the last one she wrote though... Oh and she apparently wrote a, what she calls disturbing, short that I think you might be interested in Rozbeans. I havent read it yet but she was wanting critique on it.
ROzbeans 14 years ago
Oooh, I'd read it! I'll hit her up on fb and tell her to send it to me =D And welcome back, B!
Jetamio 14 years ago
Whats nanowrimo?
Lessa 14 years ago
David is out in Missouri picking up our furniture, finally, yay!
It should be another week or so before he is back and the house is furnished and utilities..(internet) is up and running and we are moved in. After that I hope to be around MUCH more often, and back on yahoo regularily.

I am feeling a lot better, mostly just weak and scrawny and really bored. :(
Eve 14 years ago
*fuggles you silly* Glad to hear you're on the road back to us hon!