Round 2 /OOC
*Booming God Voice* Lynn took a header into a console! Discuss! *Booming God Voice*
pharren
18 years ago
except for the shepherd thing, and the breath thing (which nobody seemed to like anyways), all the evidence pointing at Domo seems circumstantial
lemmy101
18 years ago
I find it interesting that Emilio voted for Domo... suggests to me that only one of them are probably mafia, or maybe neither of them are?
Keera
18 years ago
I really don't see how these quotes have anything to do with a fictional world. Could you enlighten me?
MEC;86480
This part caught my eye, it reminded me of Eduardo's belief in his fictional world, possibly Domo as well.
I really don't see how these quotes have anything to do with a fictional world. Could you enlighten me?
Blackrabbit
18 years ago
We could both be completely innocent and the Mafia are loving it, to be sure.
And in addition, someone mentioned that Lynn voted for Emilio and then died. This is far more likely to be a Mafia ploy to point at me (as suggested), than anything else (excepting that it may just be simple coincidence on the SKID-er's part). If I were actually Mafia, there's no chance I'd be arrogant enough to draw more attention to myself with a hit on one of the people who voted for me. I like to save the arrogance for -after- I am assured my team is winning, thankyouverymuch. ;)
Furthermore, let me point out to you townies that the Mafia folks right now are most likely going to encourage this 'Emilio is guilty' stuff, because as long as you're all at my throat, they're safe and they can sit back and giggle while they dig up erroneous clues and do their best to convince you to lynch me tomorrow night.
All that said, I am still working on a list of supicious folks myself. I still believe the clues pointing at Domo are still clues pointing at Domo. Which also makes me wonder about Michael Andrews, because of the foot references and the fact that he's very defensive on Domo's behalf. In addition, ABAY, whose 'don't kill the SK' philosophy hits a wrong chord for a townie.
Furthermore, folks who spread funny little rumors that I told them so-and-so is Mafia... yeah, they pop right up there on my list of "wtf" people to look out for. That's very much NOT my style, and hopefully the Mafia vets out there will realize that, but if not, there's nothing I can do to prove or disprove it.
Of course I'm probably completely wrong. I suck at sleuthing. So please don't be offended by my targeting you... I'd target me if I weren't me, so it's all good. ;) That's the way the game goes. If I get lynched I get lynched, but hopefully along the way I will have frightened one or two Mafia as well.
And in addition, someone mentioned that Lynn voted for Emilio and then died. This is far more likely to be a Mafia ploy to point at me (as suggested), than anything else (excepting that it may just be simple coincidence on the SKID-er's part). If I were actually Mafia, there's no chance I'd be arrogant enough to draw more attention to myself with a hit on one of the people who voted for me. I like to save the arrogance for -after- I am assured my team is winning, thankyouverymuch. ;)
Furthermore, let me point out to you townies that the Mafia folks right now are most likely going to encourage this 'Emilio is guilty' stuff, because as long as you're all at my throat, they're safe and they can sit back and giggle while they dig up erroneous clues and do their best to convince you to lynch me tomorrow night.
All that said, I am still working on a list of supicious folks myself. I still believe the clues pointing at Domo are still clues pointing at Domo. Which also makes me wonder about Michael Andrews, because of the foot references and the fact that he's very defensive on Domo's behalf. In addition, ABAY, whose 'don't kill the SK' philosophy hits a wrong chord for a townie.
Furthermore, folks who spread funny little rumors that I told them so-and-so is Mafia... yeah, they pop right up there on my list of "wtf" people to look out for. That's very much NOT my style, and hopefully the Mafia vets out there will realize that, but if not, there's nothing I can do to prove or disprove it.
Of course I'm probably completely wrong. I suck at sleuthing. So please don't be offended by my targeting you... I'd target me if I weren't me, so it's all good. ;) That's the way the game goes. If I get lynched I get lynched, but hopefully along the way I will have frightened one or two Mafia as well.
Mike
18 years ago
Hrmmm… tough one today. Here we go with my random thoughts…
Zenan X Clark – 11 so he is older than our latest victim. He also has issues with people being put in charge of him so he might feel the need to assert himself as older and superior and thus the kindergarten and the baby references. He is also a marksmen and strategist.
Michael Andrews – 12 and he latest army was Rat (so yes Chuck E. Cheese is a mouse but let’s not split hairs. A rodent is a rodent… which means we might want to consider Ferret but that seems a bit of a stretch). Another stretch but he mentions thinking outside the box and when I think of joy sticks I think of the good old Atari ones and they always had a black box base and then we also have yesterday’s foot/feet references
Eduardo Perceptibule Jones – 11 what I like here is all the talk about his fantasy world and that she was killed by a game and the most talked about game is the fantasy game so see where I’m going here… fantasy word… fantasy game… come on you know you like this.
Yes, there are others older soldiers that I didn’t mention I’m not denying that. Yes Emilio is one of them but he’s a smooth talker and arguing is hardly smooth talking. Yes, he was in Rat but so were two or three people. So all I’m seeing is circumstantial, but then isn't it all?
Other random possibilities maybe the reference to yesterday’s kindergarten teacher has more to do with being the right AGE to BE IN kindergarten so that gives us BizzBizz, Janie Adams, Jacob, and Gwendal “Ducky’ Ulrich
Big Chuck E. Cheese stretches…
Chuck E. Cheese = mousy hair? Green Rosby “dirt brown” hair = mousy?
Najda Sorrento = “Dishwater blond’ = mousy?
Willie “Pinky” Cleene … any one remember Pinky and The Brain the laboratory MICE out to take over the world?
Adina Bat Aram Yousef… bat = rat with wings (also 13 years old)
Oh dear how did I miss that? Domo mentions pizza and Chuck E. Cheese is a pizza joint.
Zenan X Clark – 11 so he is older than our latest victim. He also has issues with people being put in charge of him so he might feel the need to assert himself as older and superior and thus the kindergarten and the baby references. He is also a marksmen and strategist.
Michael Andrews – 12 and he latest army was Rat (so yes Chuck E. Cheese is a mouse but let’s not split hairs. A rodent is a rodent… which means we might want to consider Ferret but that seems a bit of a stretch). Another stretch but he mentions thinking outside the box and when I think of joy sticks I think of the good old Atari ones and they always had a black box base and then we also have yesterday’s foot/feet references
Eduardo Perceptibule Jones – 11 what I like here is all the talk about his fantasy world and that she was killed by a game and the most talked about game is the fantasy game so see where I’m going here… fantasy word… fantasy game… come on you know you like this.
Yes, there are others older soldiers that I didn’t mention I’m not denying that. Yes Emilio is one of them but he’s a smooth talker and arguing is hardly smooth talking. Yes, he was in Rat but so were two or three people. So all I’m seeing is circumstantial, but then isn't it all?
Other random possibilities maybe the reference to yesterday’s kindergarten teacher has more to do with being the right AGE to BE IN kindergarten so that gives us BizzBizz, Janie Adams, Jacob, and Gwendal “Ducky’ Ulrich
Big Chuck E. Cheese stretches…
Chuck E. Cheese = mousy hair? Green Rosby “dirt brown” hair = mousy?
Najda Sorrento = “Dishwater blond’ = mousy?
Willie “Pinky” Cleene … any one remember Pinky and The Brain the laboratory MICE out to take over the world?
Adina Bat Aram Yousef… bat = rat with wings (also 13 years old)
Oh dear how did I miss that? Domo mentions pizza and Chuck E. Cheese is a pizza joint.
pharren
18 years ago
i am defensive of Domo because, for one, i really do feel that the evidence so far other than what i mentioned above is circumstantial based on the fact that according to his bio, hes a crazy motherfucker. and second of all, because i talked him into coming here and playing the game, and if he dies in the first round, i would feel bad for getting him all hyped up
:bag
:bag
Blackrabbit
18 years ago
I also feel the need to point out, in my own defense, that my character is a sharpshooter and yet not one death thus far has been the result of a shooting, nor have they involved the precision a sharpshooter would appreciate. A strangling, and bashing someone's head into a console aren't really sharpshooter material.
And TY for pointing out that arguing is hardly smooth-talking. :P
And okay... I can buy the guilt thing Pharren, lol. I'm just trying to logic it out on my own, so once again I do apologise, but I'm just trying to call it like I see it! ;)
And TY for pointing out that arguing is hardly smooth-talking. :P
And okay... I can buy the guilt thing Pharren, lol. I'm just trying to logic it out on my own, so once again I do apologise, but I'm just trying to call it like I see it! ;)
Keera
18 years ago
Pharren lies if I died in the first round hed be doing jumping gnome flips and he really just loves me. I would agree though, it is a normal reaction of the societal masses to say oh he acts and seems crazy he must be a serial killer or some other fucked up thing! Sadly this is the exception and not the rule. The world is full of crazy mother fuckers that never commit a crime in their lives. I applaud Pharren to not falling to stereotypes like the uneducated usually do. (Not implying Pharren is uneducated *snickers*)
pharren;86489
i am defensive of Domo because, for one, i really do feel that the evidence so far other than what i mentioned above is circumstantial based on the fact that according to his bio, hes a crazy motherfucker. and second of all, because i talked him into coming here and playing the game, and if he dies in the first round, i would feel bad for getting him all hyped up
:bag
Pharren lies if I died in the first round hed be doing jumping gnome flips and he really just loves me. I would agree though, it is a normal reaction of the societal masses to say oh he acts and seems crazy he must be a serial killer or some other fucked up thing! Sadly this is the exception and not the rule. The world is full of crazy mother fuckers that never commit a crime in their lives. I applaud Pharren to not falling to stereotypes like the uneducated usually do. (Not implying Pharren is uneducated *snickers*)
Jinheim
18 years ago
My experience as a Mafia vet has shown me that you are very sneaky and your style changes to whatever best suits your needs. After your "I'm just a confused innocent little newbie tee-hee" performance in the Star Wars game, I'm not especially inclined to take your "I'm just an experienced player who wants to mentor all the newbs" act at face value, either.
Blackrabbit;86487
Furthermore, folks who spread funny little rumors that I told them so-and-so is Mafia... yeah, they pop right up there on my list of "wtf" people to look out for. That's very much NOT my style, and hopefully the Mafia vets out there will realize that, but if not, there's nothing I can do to prove or disprove it.
My experience as a Mafia vet has shown me that you are very sneaky and your style changes to whatever best suits your needs. After your "I'm just a confused innocent little newbie tee-hee" performance in the Star Wars game, I'm not especially inclined to take your "I'm just an experienced player who wants to mentor all the newbs" act at face value, either.
Den
18 years ago
And the same can be said for ALL veteran mafia players, Jin. You're not exempt. Piss poor reasoning with that one, that has no bearing on the clues at all.
Den
18 years ago
And wtf way is this to play the game? Now we're going to go easy on our rl friends? Bah - lame lame lame.
pharren;86489
i am defensive of Domo because, for one, i really do feel that the evidence so far other than what i mentioned above is circumstantial based on the fact that according to his bio, hes a crazy motherfucker. and second of all, because i talked him into coming here and playing the game, and if he dies in the first round, i would feel bad for getting him all hyped up
:bag
And wtf way is this to play the game? Now we're going to go easy on our rl friends? Bah - lame lame lame.
pharren
18 years ago
cough up some compelling evidence, and let me play the game the way i want to play it ;)
pharren;86489
i really do feel that the evidence so far other than what i mentioned above is circumstantial
cough up some compelling evidence, and let me play the game the way i want to play it ;)
Den
18 years ago
There has been a ton of evidence already posted. I don't feel like rehashing it now. If you won't see it now, me restating it won't help.
But, come on...'I can't point the finger at my friend, since I'm the one who brought them into the game...' What absurdity.
But, come on...'I can't point the finger at my friend, since I'm the one who brought them into the game...' What absurdity.
Jinheim
18 years ago
The difference is that I'm not denying being a sneaky bastard. I will openly admit to having been completely ruthless and devious in the games where I was mafia. I'm not going to sit here and say "Oh, you know my style, I'm a nice guy and I never lie or manipulate the other players". It's just not true: If I play mafia, I lie and manipulate my little ass off, and so does Blackrabbit. Her attempt to pretend otherwise strikes me as suspicious.
I'm not ready to outright accuse her of anything, because the evidence in the hit just doesn't point to her, I just think that her behavior is suspicious.
Den;86493
And the same can be said for ALL veteran mafia players, Jin. You're not exempt. Piss poor reasoning with that one, that has no bearing on the clues at all.
The difference is that I'm not denying being a sneaky bastard. I will openly admit to having been completely ruthless and devious in the games where I was mafia. I'm not going to sit here and say "Oh, you know my style, I'm a nice guy and I never lie or manipulate the other players". It's just not true: If I play mafia, I lie and manipulate my little ass off, and so does Blackrabbit. Her attempt to pretend otherwise strikes me as suspicious.
I'm not ready to outright accuse her of anything, because the evidence in the hit just doesn't point to her, I just think that her behavior is suspicious.
Den
18 years ago
On the other hand...she's not lying! So your assertion that she is attempting to pretend otherwise, is a lie.
I think we need to get back to the game, dispute the clues, or post new ones, and quit playing by second guessing motives. It's a given in this game that at some point or another everyone will probably lie. That does not mean they are, or are not, mafia.
That is...unless you are mafia, and can't come up with legitimate clues, so you need to resort to this kind of play...;)
I think we need to get back to the game, dispute the clues, or post new ones, and quit playing by second guessing motives. It's a given in this game that at some point or another everyone will probably lie. That does not mean they are, or are not, mafia.
That is...unless you are mafia, and can't come up with legitimate clues, so you need to resort to this kind of play...;)
Jinheim
18 years ago
Yes, yes you're right. Lets just ignore people's behavior and focus entirely on clues that can easily be misinterpreted, overlooked, or imagined.
Den;86498
On the other hand...she's not lying! So your assertion that she is attempting to pretend otherwise, is a lie.
I think we need to get back to the game, dispute the clues, or post new ones, and quit playing by second guessing motives. It's a given in this game that at some point or another everyone will probably lie. That does not mean they are, or are not, mafia.
Yes, yes you're right. Lets just ignore people's behavior and focus entirely on clues that can easily be misinterpreted, overlooked, or imagined.
lemmy101
18 years ago
Hehe :p not that people's behaviour can be misinterpreted, overlooked or imagined?? :D
I think they're all as valid as each other really... just Blackrabbit's behaviour has been in some way suspicious since the start of the game IMO and I find it hard trusting absolutely anyone.... I'm curious why Den is so sure as to keep jumping to her defense...?
Jinheim;86499
Yes, yes you're right. Lets just ignore people's behavior and focus entirely on clues that can easily be misinterpreted, overlooked, or imagined.
Hehe :p not that people's behaviour can be misinterpreted, overlooked or imagined?? :D
I think they're all as valid as each other really... just Blackrabbit's behaviour has been in some way suspicious since the start of the game IMO and I find it hard trusting absolutely anyone.... I'm curious why Den is so sure as to keep jumping to her defense...?
pharren
18 years ago
i already did point the finger at Domo. i am merely saying why i appear to be defensive of him. i truly believe at this point that he is not the SK. i also truly believe that other people are not the SK, yet i dont go out of my way to say so. thats the only difference. if i felt Domo was guilty id stick it to him raw, and gloat about it for days (weeks maybe).
second guessing motives and analyzing peoples actions and reactions here in the ooc threads is a major part of the game, at least for me. you can rely solely on the clues, but you might end up discovering things too late, or make some other fatal error. which basically means that you cant rely solely on the clues.
how do you know she isnt lying? what is it shes not lying about?
from now on, id like to play the game without people insulting me. can we work that out somehow?
second guessing motives and analyzing peoples actions and reactions here in the ooc threads is a major part of the game, at least for me. you can rely solely on the clues, but you might end up discovering things too late, or make some other fatal error. which basically means that you cant rely solely on the clues.
On the other hand...she's not lying! So your assertion that she is attempting to pretend otherwise, is a lie.
how do you know she isnt lying? what is it shes not lying about?
from now on, id like to play the game without people insulting me. can we work that out somehow?
Jinheim
18 years ago
Exactly. There is no reason to ignore one for the other. I like to have both, which is why I have not accused blackrabbit of anything. She's acting suspicious, but the evidence from the hits just isn't there. I'm not going to start a witch-hunt after her, because I myself am not even close to being convinced she is evil. She is a strong player, and losing her would be bad news if she is, in fact, a townie.
lemmy101;86500
Hehe :p not that people's behaviour can be misinterpreted, overlooked or imagined?? :D
I think they're all as valid as each other really... j
Exactly. There is no reason to ignore one for the other. I like to have both, which is why I have not accused blackrabbit of anything. She's acting suspicious, but the evidence from the hits just isn't there. I'm not going to start a witch-hunt after her, because I myself am not even close to being convinced she is evil. She is a strong player, and losing her would be bad news if she is, in fact, a townie.
Den
18 years ago
I don't think Domo is the SK either...he's mafia. And my statement about Rabbit not lying was just an example. She may very well be lying. I'm not defending her, I'm trying to say there is someone out there who is a much better suspect, with better clues against them.