NIce scenario, but I don't see one clue from any of the kills that points to me as mafia. I suppose you don't have to play the game that way. I suppose you can just pull any old name out of a hat and say 'MAFIA'!! But what good is it for the mods to go to all the trouble to put clues into the game if no one uses them?
Just a thought.
Round 3 - /OOC
Discuss here! OR I WILL SMITE THEE DOWN! For I am GOD! And I SMITE PEOPLE DOWN!
*whispered conference*
Except not so much any more. But I've still got it! Don't test me!
*smite*
Ha! Scared you!
Den
18 years ago
MashPotato
18 years ago
Which makes sort of sense, except that by the time Ezekial voted, it was already a foregone conclusion that Domo was going to be lynched. If I was mafia, by that point it would have made much more sense to vote Domo and not draw attention to myself.
EDIT: will write more later, I'm at work right now ;)
Then, the next day, when I uncover the Chuck E Cheese clue, his buddies Eduardo and Ezekial try to save him by saying things like "I just don't see strong enough evidence to lynch him yet." when there absolutely was strong enough evidence. Ezekial didn't say much, but Eduardo tried as hard as he could, given the overwhelming evidence against Domo.
EDIT: will write more later, I'm at work right now ;)
Blackrabbit
18 years ago
I was going to post a response here, but instead please insert what sounds like my forehead pounding against drywall.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Den
18 years ago
To recap what's been posted so far today, the following are being considered...for mafia, or sk...I'm not completely sure on some:
Eduardo
Ezekial
Armando
Gwendal
Emilio
BizzBizz
Any one else suspect? Any more clues on any of the above...or in my case, any clues at all? (;))
Eduardo
Ezekial
Armando
Gwendal
Emilio
BizzBizz
Any one else suspect? Any more clues on any of the above...or in my case, any clues at all? (;))
pharren
18 years ago
why are you so bent on people playing the game the way YOU want to play it?
CaptainBinky
18 years ago
Hilarious. Yes I might be completely wrong. I accept that - unlike other people here I don't claim to be 100% sure about anything which I can't possibly *know* to be absolutely true.
But if I am wrong, then it's your own damn fault for being so blooming suspicious all the time.
So there. :p
Blackrabbit;86805
please insert what sounds like my forehead pounding against drywall.
Hilarious. Yes I might be completely wrong. I accept that - unlike other people here I don't claim to be 100% sure about anything which I can't possibly *know* to be absolutely true.
But if I am wrong, then it's your own damn fault for being so blooming suspicious all the time.
So there. :p
Blackrabbit
18 years ago
Find me a clue, other than something behavioral, that proves I'm Mafia, and I will gladly and willingly submit to your accusations.
Granted, while peoples' attitudes and responses can -sometimes- give clues as to their roles, it is not safe to rely upon that as your sole method for judging someone 'good' or 'bad.'
If I am such an experienced veteran player, why should you have any cause to think -anything- I have told you is true? And what makes you the sole judge of whether or not my advice is trustworthy?
This game is, first and foremost, a game of literary reference. If you cannot provide specific clues from the Mafia hits that actually point to Emilio's bio, then I am not Mafia. It's that simple. The mods put clues in every hit. Yet aside from things I have said, or you claim I have said, or someone else claims I might have said, I fail to see any evidence whatsoever that supports your arguments.
Granted, while peoples' attitudes and responses can -sometimes- give clues as to their roles, it is not safe to rely upon that as your sole method for judging someone 'good' or 'bad.'
If I am such an experienced veteran player, why should you have any cause to think -anything- I have told you is true? And what makes you the sole judge of whether or not my advice is trustworthy?
This game is, first and foremost, a game of literary reference. If you cannot provide specific clues from the Mafia hits that actually point to Emilio's bio, then I am not Mafia. It's that simple. The mods put clues in every hit. Yet aside from things I have said, or you claim I have said, or someone else claims I might have said, I fail to see any evidence whatsoever that supports your arguments.
CaptainBinky
18 years ago
Yes, granted clues etc. But attitudes and responses only sometimes giving clues? I'd have thought that how someone reacts would be very telling indeed.
Heck, people are making a big enough deal about me and Mash being in cahoots because of the way we're voting - I don't see you jumping in there and saying "stick to the facts guys, how people vote is only sometimes telling"
But levelled at you, and you brush it off like I'm being a stupid noob. Answer me this... How can you know Domo was mafia, know, that I am not mafia or Godfather, and know that you can trust Den when there have only been enough lynches for 2 IDs?
Heck, people are making a big enough deal about me and Mash being in cahoots because of the way we're voting - I don't see you jumping in there and saying "stick to the facts guys, how people vote is only sometimes telling"
But levelled at you, and you brush it off like I'm being a stupid noob. Answer me this... How can you know Domo was mafia, know, that I am not mafia or Godfather, and know that you can trust Den when there have only been enough lynches for 2 IDs?
pharren
18 years ago
you guys praise Jinheim for his post that is ENTIRELY based on "peoples' attitudes and responses" and he flat out declares soandso is innocent and soandso is mafia. there is mention of ONE clue, which has already been used to convict Domo and sentence him to asphyxiation. if you are going to use ONE clue that pointed to someone WE ALREADY LYNCHED to claim SOME OTHER PEOPLE are mafia, wouldnt you classify that as "conjectural"? you guys are all "CLUES CLUES CLUES!!!!!11" until Jinheim posts.
that in itself is suspicious.
BUT I DONT HAVE ANY LITERARY REFERENCES SO I GUESS THAT I SHOULD JUST IGNORE IT?????? YES TRULY THIS IS THE WAY TO PLAY MAFIA
that in itself is suspicious.
BUT I DONT HAVE ANY LITERARY REFERENCES SO I GUESS THAT I SHOULD JUST IGNORE IT?????? YES TRULY THIS IS THE WAY TO PLAY MAFIA
Blackrabbit
18 years ago
Okay, first - Eduardo -
One, I never said you weren't Mafia or GF. I said you're either a townie, or you're the GF. I am basing it on what I was told and while I may be incorrect, or misinformed, I am going to trust my own instincts.
Two, at no point have I accused Ezekial and Eduardo of being in cahoots. "You guys" nothing. I am willing to accept it as a possibility, but I have not posted a comment as such because I am still looking for evidence to back it up.
Three, yes, reactions can sometimes be telling... but not always. That's all I can say. If you can't trust anyone, how can you trust that everything they do is their honest reaction?
So we come to Pharren -
One, if you're gonna get on a pedestal about letting people play how they want, don't post in caps at the end of your own post about how they're playing the game, damnit. It's hypocritical.
Secondly, Jacob pointed out a clue that was VERY suspect and the strongest thing I felt we had to go on.
Thirdly, well yes... if there are absolutely NO references in the hit that indicate a player as Mafia, then it's a good bet they're not Mafia. I'm pretty sure the mods can clarify that... clues = literary. Everything else is conjecture. Sometimes the conjecture is right, and sometimes it is wrong.
One, I never said you weren't Mafia or GF. I said you're either a townie, or you're the GF. I am basing it on what I was told and while I may be incorrect, or misinformed, I am going to trust my own instincts.
Two, at no point have I accused Ezekial and Eduardo of being in cahoots. "You guys" nothing. I am willing to accept it as a possibility, but I have not posted a comment as such because I am still looking for evidence to back it up.
Three, yes, reactions can sometimes be telling... but not always. That's all I can say. If you can't trust anyone, how can you trust that everything they do is their honest reaction?
So we come to Pharren -
One, if you're gonna get on a pedestal about letting people play how they want, don't post in caps at the end of your own post about how they're playing the game, damnit. It's hypocritical.
Secondly, Jacob pointed out a clue that was VERY suspect and the strongest thing I felt we had to go on.
Thirdly, well yes... if there are absolutely NO references in the hit that indicate a player as Mafia, then it's a good bet they're not Mafia. I'm pretty sure the mods can clarify that... clues = literary. Everything else is conjecture. Sometimes the conjecture is right, and sometimes it is wrong.
Blackrabbit
18 years ago
Getting back to clues:
My initial take on this morning's hit was that there were 2 mafia left. One kills Stormie inside the game, distracting her, and the other kills her outside of it, like for realz.
I thought it would make sense for Eduardo to be the one in the game, as it specifically says in his bio he has yet to even realize he is at battle school. In addition there are the numberous references to fantasy settings, etc.
That leaves a mafia outside the game to sneak up on Stormie from behind and bash her with her own computer thingy. That's the one I thought was the math reference person.
My initial take on this morning's hit was that there were 2 mafia left. One kills Stormie inside the game, distracting her, and the other kills her outside of it, like for realz.
I thought it would make sense for Eduardo to be the one in the game, as it specifically says in his bio he has yet to even realize he is at battle school. In addition there are the numberous references to fantasy settings, etc.
That leaves a mafia outside the game to sneak up on Stormie from behind and bash her with her own computer thingy. That's the one I thought was the math reference person.
Den
18 years ago
I don't give a rats ass how you play. All I was doing was trying to recap what had been mentioned, and possibly direct some people to post what clues they might have found. Sue me, but I like being organized. But hell...fergetaboutit. I'm certainly not going to argue the way I see the game as being set up to be played.
pharren;86811
why are you so bent on people playing the game the way YOU want to play it?
I don't give a rats ass how you play. All I was doing was trying to recap what had been mentioned, and possibly direct some people to post what clues they might have found. Sue me, but I like being organized. But hell...fergetaboutit. I'm certainly not going to argue the way I see the game as being set up to be played.
CaptainBinky
18 years ago
Yes that's what I was getting at... I'm not mafia OR I'm the Godfather, apparently.
Well, what you actually said was "I know you aren't regular Mafia", and " I have already told you I know that you are either the GF, or you are a townie. Of this, I am certain."
(my bold, by the way)
and then in the thread, publically, you say...
See... this is exactly why I get so suspicious... I know... I am certain... are not the words of someone who may have been misinformed, or is just trusting instincts.
So I ask again, how can you be certain that Domo was mafia, Den is trustworthy, and I am either a townie or the Godfather (or SK) when there's only been time for 2 IDs?
Blackrabbit;86816
One, I never said you weren't Mafia or GF. I said you're either a townie, or you're the GF
Yes that's what I was getting at... I'm not mafia OR I'm the Godfather, apparently.
Well, what you actually said was "I know you aren't regular Mafia", and " I have already told you I know that you are either the GF, or you are a townie. Of this, I am certain."
(my bold, by the way)
and then in the thread, publically, you say...
BlackRabbit
while I may be incorrect, or misinformed, I am going to trust my own instincts
See... this is exactly why I get so suspicious... I know... I am certain... are not the words of someone who may have been misinformed, or is just trusting instincts.
So I ask again, how can you be certain that Domo was mafia, Den is trustworthy, and I am either a townie or the Godfather (or SK) when there's only been time for 2 IDs?
MashPotato
18 years ago
Looking back for clues, I think (perhaps incorrectly) that whichever mafia is in the game is the GF (the "alpha dog"), and the GF is slightly larger than the rest... from this, it's unlikely Eduardo is the GF (although not impossible), since he's the fourth shortest person in Dragon.
The pack just stood there, fangs still dripping with saliva but just staring her down - especially the front wolf, which was slightly larger and must have been the Alpha, she wagered. It kept the snarling pack at bay, its slanted pupil eyes glaring at her.
Looking back for clues, I think (perhaps incorrectly) that whichever mafia is in the game is the GF (the "alpha dog"), and the GF is slightly larger than the rest... from this, it's unlikely Eduardo is the GF (although not impossible), since he's the fourth shortest person in Dragon.
Den
18 years ago
:thumbsup
CaptainBinky;86819
Den is trustworthy
:thumbsup
Blackrabbit
18 years ago
Maybe I'm the sheriff.
Maybe I'm confusing you with semantics, hoping you will over-analyze them.
Maybe I know who the sheriff is.
Maybe I am simply a stubborn wench who gets her teeth sunk into an idea and sticks with it.
Maybe I believe that if I'm gonna trust someone I should just do it all the way like pulling off a band-aid.
Ooooh... maybe... all of that. ;)
But hell. Maybe I am Mafia and just have been incredibly lucky to not ahve you pick up on any of the fifteen-thousand clues littering teh hits that have 'Emilio' written all over them.
Maybe I am the SK.
/grins... the world may never know.
...but "if they lynch me, I was right!!!"
;)
Maybe I'm confusing you with semantics, hoping you will over-analyze them.
Maybe I know who the sheriff is.
Maybe I am simply a stubborn wench who gets her teeth sunk into an idea and sticks with it.
Maybe I believe that if I'm gonna trust someone I should just do it all the way like pulling off a band-aid.
Ooooh... maybe... all of that. ;)
But hell. Maybe I am Mafia and just have been incredibly lucky to not ahve you pick up on any of the fifteen-thousand clues littering teh hits that have 'Emilio' written all over them.
Maybe I am the SK.
/grins... the world may never know.
...but "if they lynch me, I was right!!!"
;)
Blackrabbit
18 years ago
Eh, the GF only has to be larger than the rest of the Mafia for that to make sense. Not a bad idea...
pharren
18 years ago
maybe if your behaviour werent so suspicious people would believe you
Maybe I'm the sheriff.
Maybe I'm confusing you with semantics, hoping you will over-analyze them.
Maybe I know who the sheriff is.
Maybe I am simply a stubborn wench who gets her teeth sunk into an idea and sticks with it.
Maybe I believe that if I'm gonna trust someone I should just do it all the way like pulling off a band-aid.
Ooooh... maybe... all of that.
But hell. Maybe I am Mafia and just have been incredibly lucky to not ahve you pick up on any of the fifteen-thousand clues littering teh hits that have 'Emilio' written all over them.
Maybe I am the SK.
/grins... the world may never know.
maybe if your behaviour werent so suspicious people would believe you
ROzbeans
18 years ago
Guys I'd just like to remind everyone that this is just a game. When people start getting angry, pissed off, snotty or just plain rude - it sucks the fun out of it. I'm not pointing fingers and I'd really like it if no one else either - just please remember, it's just a game.
You WILL have fun.
Thanks, guys.
You WILL have fun.
Thanks, guys.
Den
18 years ago
At this point one thing I see as far as size is that the SK must be a larger person, because they do a lot of lifting and other physical things with their victims. Theresa was picked up and carried to the airlock. Pinual was hung somehow...