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Round 3 - OOC

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CaptainBinky 18 years ago
SK Hit
“Whoever eet was ou thought of thees clue should be run through!”


Self-referencing at the outrageously tenuous clues in the kills? :D :D :D

Actually, the biggest thing I get from this last SK hit is how rational the Serial Killer seems to be. He/she doesn't seem to be acting with reckless abandon so I think it kinda rules out some of the more headstrong of characters. That fits in with the style of the round 1 kill, but of course there's the thumping in the face action of round 2.
Verileah 18 years ago
Aw, poor Slipnish :\.

I haven't had my diet coke yet, but man...I got nothing. Well, except to say that the SK's motivations seem a little more open than they were initially defined. Round 2 was because they wanted one less competitor, but this one was motivated by a need to kill a dangerous pirate - more like the scenario suggested.

So...does that mean that we should be looking at people whose bios line up with the 'scenario SK'...or are the mods trying to steer us away from that?
Hiejinx 18 years ago
Not sure if I'm on the right track but here goes:
The use of:

SK kill # word association
1 echo Rosa
1 barrel Squirrel Lips
2 sugar Lilith
2 thump Nola
3 circle/halo Lilith
3 lots of needs Lilith

Things I noticed as to the tone of all three:

The only three pirates that specifically mention humor or laughter are Mary, Nola and O'Connor and this SK pirate in ALL 3 seems to amuse herself/himself with their own wit and humor. Sarcasm plays through for Lilith.

I also read to see who referenced either a father or a grandfather to look for the use of the term and an association to their darling 'daddy'.... The ones still alive are Nola for her grandfather, Darsa, Squirrel Lips, Lilith and Caitri.

So taking references from each kill that add up I know which one I'm taking bets on. Wanna gamble?
Darsa 18 years ago
I have my very own private suspicions, and while some of them run somewhat parallel to your thoughts, Hiejinx, some of them are wildly different. I don't have the time during the day to sort them all into some kind of coherent order (I don't think my boss would appreciate it) but I'm going to try to take some time to sit down and REALLY look at the clues and what's left, and hopefully come up with something! :)
Hiejinx 18 years ago
I get that whole work scenario Darsa :pengy I get lucky on Wed. and work from home. So, two comps and no eyes :omg allows a little more flexibility for multi tasking. Hehehe
Laha 18 years ago
Here is a quick question, if we add RP to the lists, can anything we write potentially be used against us?

Hehehehe...

Laha
lemmy101 18 years ago
Laha;94605
Here is a quick question, if we add RP to the lists, can anything we write potentially be used against us?

Hehehehe...

Laha


If you start your post with: "After finishing off Mon Claire..." I guess you could! :p
lemmy101 18 years ago
Interesting leads on the SK! I guess it warrants the question: Do we kill a known Mafia member, or go for the SK? It's a tough one. At this stage we could so easily lynch an innocent, but could potentially get rid of the SK early.

On the other hand we could kill a Mafia member, but then of course there will still be Mafia about and Four Winds is not the GF.

Also at the moment the SK, while having more chance of axing a townie, still has a shot at killing mafia. If we get rid of the SK we'll still have a kill a day looking at previous games, and would that be better or worse? considering every day will then be a coordinated mafia hit against townies, without the more random hand of the SK messing their plans up every other day?

I guess as long as Caine does go at some stage, and my warning to all has been noted, then that's what is important. Of course it does mean an extra vote for the mafia though which could help swing a lynch in the wrong direction at a pinch.

I dunno what the best strategy is... I can see benefits and pitfalls for both sides. There's only one sure way of not killing an innocent tonight in my mind though..
Rae 18 years ago
RPs are just for fun. You can choose to or not. Clues will only come from the bios. I hope that answers your question.
Blackrabbit 18 years ago
I have read and re-read Lilith's bio, and really don't see an overabundance of sarcasm. I see some references to black magis, some rape, some pretty dark themes, but where is this sarcasm you mention? I'm missing it. :/

Aside from some word association, I really don't find a strong case against any of your SK suggestions, myself included.

I know you have protested my labeling you as the SK and I do apologise, but your character just keeps popping back up. For example, in today's hit we have multiple references to a sandy beach, a remote little island, and more sand... sand, sand, sand, in fact.

From Bontempe's bio:
Having been raised in St. Lucia he was intimately familiar with the sand bars, the coves and other hiding places throughout the Lesser and Greater Antilles and used those to his great advantage.


Can we assume that one sandbar is much like another, and a Captain used to hiding on teeny islands in the Antilles could very well transfer that knowledge elsewhere? The hit doesn't state where we are geographically either; we could very well be in the Caribbean.

In addition, we have the recurring SK theme of fair play and judegement. Let's not forget Bontempe is a mediator.
The figure in the jungle had been watching the Frenchman lead his crew around in a circle for some time debating on whether or not to act. Was this one really dangerous to anyone else?


That's a judgement call if you ask me.

Now we have strong clues alluding to Bontempe's bio in all three SK hits. I am willing to admit there are one or two others whose bios could very well fit the bill (Gentleman Jack Morgan's for one), but I think this is the best fit so far. If you aren't the SK I would certainly start looking at Gentleman Jack more closely but so far the kill styles don't seem to reflect the "savagery" in his bio.

I'm sorry, but my case is still for Bontempe.
Hiejinx 18 years ago
The sugary sarcasm was in the hit not in the profile. Besides, you say overabundance...does that mean you found some evidence of sarcasm????

Quite frequently those word associations and allegorical references are the clues given.

Mount your case Nola and I'll laugh all the way to the locker and pray you are the next SK hit. Thump!

I know everyone says it but I am 100 % townie and the truth will fly at the end when the roles are displayed.
Four Winds 18 years ago

Serial Killer Hit 3: Blow The Man Down Part I



Thanks to Mai for such an entertaining read!

We know that:

Mai;94590
“The brigantine had recently weighed anchor off the shore of a small desolate island”


And that the island was covered with a “sandy beach,” “undergrowth,” and “jungle”.

I think it’s unlikely that the Serial Killer stowed away aboard the Tube Rider.

Although it’s certainly within the capability of some Pirate Captains to disguise themselves very well, there’s no mention in the Serial Killer Hit about using this tactic

Unless the Serial Killer knew where Captain Mon Claire was headed (which also appears unlikely), then it would appear that the Tube Rider was shadowed to the desolate island by another sailing vessel that would have a low profile, and could keep pace with a Brigantine at a safe distance without drawing attention from the crew of the Tube Rider.

That would likely exclude the Large/Huge vessels commanded by some of the Pirate Captains due to their high profile and visibility.

Large/Huge Vessels: (Alphabetical)

Captain Lilith: First Rate Ship of the Line

Captain Solomon Caine: Frigate

Colonel James O'Connor: Large Frigate

Captain Rosa: Man-O-War

Captain Ginger Ears
and Dominic the Parrot: Stolen Flagship Galleon of the Andorran National Navy

In general the smaller the vessel, the lower the profile, and there are certainly some fast, small vessels that could easily shadow the Tube Rider and either weigh anchor offshore on the other side of the island in shallow water, launch a rowboat, or be within reach for the Pirate Captain to easily swim to the shore of the island.

Small/Medium Vessels: (Alphabetical)

Captain Darsa: Barbary Corsair

Captain Gentleman Jack Morgan: Brigantine

Captain Cesare (Cuirasse) Bontempe: Caravel

Captain: Dread Pirate Rabbit: Kobukson

Cpt. John 'Squirrel Lips' Jessop: Rowing Boat (?) (see Captain Bloody Rich)

Captain Mystique: Single Masted Schooner

Captain Caitri Ambrai-Greystone: Schooner

Captain Bloody Rich: Schooner (is Captain Jessop with him after the pickup?)

Captain Santiago Ortiz: Sloop

Captain Nova Piestewa:
Sloop

Captain Jack Blackwater: Sloop

Captain William Cleene: Sloop of War

Welcome to the Jungle


The Serial Killer is watching Captain Mon Claire and his hard pressed crew from the safety of the jungle for a while:

Mai;94590

“The figure in the jungle had been watching the Frenchman lead his crew around in a circle for some time debating on whether or not to act.”


The Serial Killer appears to have a sense of vicious irony that is applied later in the dispatching of the flamboyant French Captain.

Mai;94590

“Whoever eet was ou thought of thees clue should be run through!”


The thought process of the Serial Killer for dispatching Captain Mon Claire is interesting:

Mai;94590

Was this one really dangerous to anyone else?

Finally it was decided that he was over working a whole village worth of seamstresses and killing off herds of cows in order to stock his wardrobe, of which the colour choices alone should be a kill worthy offense, and therefore he needed to be stopped.

For the children who hadn't seen their lace making mothers in years...

Stepping forward, the stranger ran poor Mon Claire through. Sadly for him, it would be for the last time.


Captain Mon Claire was run through. - but with a sword or a piercing like weapon (like a spear or harpoon)?

Mai;94590

Someone else would take charge of brigantine with its lovely pink and teal flag that never failed to inspire fear into the hearts of many a man that sailed upon the open sea.


Not sure if this is Mai continuing her sense of humor in the unfolding scene, or is the Serial Killer expressing contempt for such the Tube Rider, a vessel as flamboyantly decked out as it’s poor departed Captain.


From the second Serial Killer hit, we know that the Serial Killer has no hesitation of frontal assault - striking Captain Angela Tasman in the face and knocking her out, and now running Captain Mon Clarie through with impunity.

The Serial Killer also has a sense of irony when it comes to dispatching victims. Captain Angela Tasman being sent home to daddy, and Captain Mon Claire literally being run through after making his earlier threat of running people through. And is Captain Mon Claire a fashion victim in the literal sense?

And also remember from the second Serial Killer hit that the title itself had the oblique reference to a Sloop, a fast, small vessel perfectly suited to shadowing other vessels.

I have to head out to work, but I'll elaborate later.
Laha 18 years ago
Hey?

Wasn't squirrel lips dropped off on an island???

(^_^)

Laha
Verileah 18 years ago
The doctor saved him.
Hiejinx 18 years ago
LOL he sure was -- row boat and all I believe that was in the role play addition though
Verileah 18 years ago
Meh, I just need to not talk when my reading comprehension is not 100 percent :X
Laha 18 years ago
So the doc saved him, but that doesn't still rule out an SK hit?

He was after all on the island...

Hehehe...

Laha
Den 18 years ago
Laha;94645
So the doc saved him, but that doesn't still rule out an SK hit?

He was after all on the island...

Hehehe...

Laha


This is true. The doctor can only ask if a person is mafia...not if they are the sk, so he may have been told Jessop wasn't mafia, but would be guessing on the sk aspect.
lemmy101 18 years ago
Hey, if the evidence points at me being SK, fair enough. I'm not aware of a great deal of evidence being thrust in my direction, but I'll say this anyway:

I'm SK. I've managed to convince the doc to save me. Good job on my part! By Round 2 I, as the serial killer, have convinced the doc to save my life!

That means 1) I've gained the trust of the doc only one round from the start, got his role revealed to me, AND got him to protect me, not even knowing that the person I'm talking could be mafia feeding me a line... and then I also had the balls to do all this publicly to try and get someone lynched that, all things considered, I've got no reason to kill a *specific* person on any side. Seems a lot more bother than just silently killing people left and right.

So anyway, you're free to consider me as SK, but please consider it wisely as since I'm already as good as dead, I don't want what time I've got to be wasted on internal struggle to find the SK that ends up lynching townies... I know no one can ever be trusted 100%, but please don't waste this 95.83% chance I'm not the SK and am trying to help the townies get a huge advantage to win.

That's not playing the odds at all.

Especially when, this early on, really the SK isn't hurting the townies as much as an extra mafia hit a day would.
Guest 18 years ago
Den;94647
This is true. The doctor can only ask if a person is mafia...not if they are the sk, so he may have been told Jessop wasn't mafia, but would be guessing on the sk aspect.


Game Note: The sheriff is the only one that can identify the Mafia. The Doctor just saves people.

Fact: Squirrel lips was on AN island.....it can not be said he was on the same island Captain Mon Claire was killed on. Of course it does not say he wasn't, but no facts point to him being on the same island.