Say Anything.
'Say Anything' is a John Cusak/Cameron Crowe 1989 teen flick. ' A noble underachiever and a beautiful valedictorian fall in love the summer before she goes off to college.' This is actually not what this thread is about, but the message is the same.
Actually no it isn't, I just like imdb.com and the title sounded interesting. /snort
This is not necessarily a vent thread - far from it. This is about saying anything - weather, the bird outside your work window, the fundamental differences between Mormons and catholics, how Law and Order Criminal Intent doesn't get the props it deserves, that I always forget whether it's 'it's' or 'its', that my daughter has a beautiful smile and the first guy that breaks her heart - I'm breaking his knees...it's about anything.
So, say anything.
ROzbeans
15 years ago
He has Chapter 1 on his website and will be going up to 5 until the release in July. So far so good.
Gongaa
15 years ago
Like.
Vulash;104825
I don't even accept from extended family members I don't like :D
Like.
Laschae
15 years ago
Oooh I hadn't been checking his website ... time to go have a peek!
Verileah
15 years ago
I share a lot with my husband - things I find significant, or interesting, or funny - but I feel weird about the idea of him being able to read whatever he wants in my private messages and/or emails. My family wanted to know if my husband had my facebook account information or if there was any way he was able to keep an eye on me - frankly I found that appalling. I don't follow him when he's out with friends, he doesn't open my mail...why wouldn't we have personal boundaries on the internet?
Gongaa
15 years ago
I agree with this 100%. I would feel crowded in a relationship that didn't offer this much personal space at the very least. I wouldn't be together with someone if I didn't trust them enough not to e-fuck people on the internet.
Mind you, I'm not saying that that's why you guys share your info - I'm sure you all have good reasons and are happy with your decisions. Mail, email, facebook, angrycrayon PMs, mobile phone, purse, wallet, etc.: I don't want my partner looking in mine and I don't want to look in my partner's.
Also, I just ate something with a lot of garlic in it and now I smell like vampire repellent.
Verileah;104838
I share a lot with my husband - things I find significant, or interesting, or funny - but I feel weird about the idea of him being able to read whatever he wants in my private messages and/or emails. My family wanted to know if my husband had my facebook account information or if there was any way he was able to keep an eye on me - frankly I found that appalling. I don't follow him when he's out with friends, he doesn't open my mail...why wouldn't we have personal boundaries on the internet?
I agree with this 100%. I would feel crowded in a relationship that didn't offer this much personal space at the very least. I wouldn't be together with someone if I didn't trust them enough not to e-fuck people on the internet.
Mind you, I'm not saying that that's why you guys share your info - I'm sure you all have good reasons and are happy with your decisions. Mail, email, facebook, angrycrayon PMs, mobile phone, purse, wallet, etc.: I don't want my partner looking in mine and I don't want to look in my partner's.
Also, I just ate something with a lot of garlic in it and now I smell like vampire repellent.
pharren
15 years ago
I feel like we had this conversation recently (minus the garlic thing)
Gongaa
15 years ago
Oh schnapps, for real? I totally don't remember. :(
Sorry if I'm repeating myself here. I like to hear myself talk so much that even reruns are like the finest silk handkerchiefs being forcibly stuffed into my ear canals.
Sorry if I'm repeating myself here. I like to hear myself talk so much that even reruns are like the finest silk handkerchiefs being forcibly stuffed into my ear canals.
pharren
15 years ago
No, sorry hun. It was actually a conversation on Facebook (eye row knee) and in IMs, and I think I pretty much said exactly what you said.
Verileah
15 years ago
/agree! Certainly all relationships have their own comfort levels. Frankly there are all kinds of things I'm uncomfortable with that other couples wouldn't blink at. I had a friend ask me if my husband and I were 'at that stage' where we could go to the bathroom in front of each other, and, you know, no judgment here, but...I hope we never get to that stage and I think that is a poor measure of a good relationship :X.
*hopes that isn't TMI :X*
Mind you, I'm not saying that that's why you guys share your info - I'm sure you all have good reasons and are happy with your decisions. Mail, email, facebook, angrycrayon PMs, mobile phone, purse, wallet, etc.: I don't want my partner looking in mine and I don't want to look in my partner's.
/agree! Certainly all relationships have their own comfort levels. Frankly there are all kinds of things I'm uncomfortable with that other couples wouldn't blink at. I had a friend ask me if my husband and I were 'at that stage' where we could go to the bathroom in front of each other, and, you know, no judgment here, but...I hope we never get to that stage and I think that is a poor measure of a good relationship :X.
*hopes that isn't TMI :X*
Dia
15 years ago
WHAT?! New hollows book out? omgz how did I forget? Dang wedding planning has got me all jacked up.
Eve
15 years ago
LoL Just went and ordered the one before since I was waiting for paper back. I try not to splurge on hardcover unless I'm really jonesing. Same thing with Mercy, was one behind there too so all good. New Jane Yellowrock out for anyone who happens to read that one, up to book 3 now :)
pharren
15 years ago
I think that is totally a personal thing (as in, "on an individual basis"), due to all the possible connotations, from our childhood and potentially traumatic potty-training memories, to where we were born and raised, to religious or other "authority figure" type influences, to our own individual neuroses (e.g., a person with an obsessive compulsive hand-washing or other cleanliness thing). I wouldn't be comfortable with it either. It doesn't make sense to use that as a measure of a good relationship.
I had a friend ask me if my husband and I were 'at that stage' where we could go to the bathroom in front of each other, and, you know, no judgment here, but...I hope we never get to that stage and I think that is a poor measure of a good relationship
I think that is totally a personal thing (as in, "on an individual basis"), due to all the possible connotations, from our childhood and potentially traumatic potty-training memories, to where we were born and raised, to religious or other "authority figure" type influences, to our own individual neuroses (e.g., a person with an obsessive compulsive hand-washing or other cleanliness thing). I wouldn't be comfortable with it either. It doesn't make sense to use that as a measure of a good relationship.
pharren
15 years ago
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/why-one-woman-walked-away-from-motherhood/6c1aohk?q=Mom+Home&rel=msn&from=en-us_msnhp&form=MSNRLL>1=42010&playermode=overlay&header=true&ad=sponsor|true&adFull=ENUS_DivPlayerTest2|web&adPartial=ENUS_DivPlayerTest2|partial&timePlaying=90&gallery.categoryRequests=videobytag.aspx%3fmk%3dus%26vs%3d0%26ns%3dgallery%26tag%3dv5%2520hero%2520playlist%26sf%3dVideoId%26ipt%3d1
This woman who had a 5-year-old and a 3-year-old got a fellowship in Japan to do research for a book, and once she got there, realized she just didn't want to be a full-time mother anymore, and when she returned to the states, she left her family.
It's easy to dismiss her as selfish. My initial reaction before watching the whole video was "well, then why did you have kids, stupid?". My secondary reaction was simply that she got caught up in the mythos of the American Gothic, where all women are destined to be wives and have children, men are destined to be husbands and the provider, and that's the end of that. But neither of those are really fair to her. I think the reason I keep trying to reject her is the primal urge everyone has to protect children. She didn't realize that she didn't want to be a mother until she re-experienced freedom. It still sounds selfish, even as I type it, and when you hear her say that she didn't want to devote her whole life to someone else, but she makes some good points. Definitely worth watching, and thinking about.
DERAIL INC
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/why-one-woman-walked-away-from-motherhood/6c1aohk?q=Mom+Home&rel=msn&from=en-us_msnhp&form=MSNRLL>1=42010&playermode=overlay&header=true&ad=sponsor|true&adFull=ENUS_DivPlayerTest2|web&adPartial=ENUS_DivPlayerTest2|partial&timePlaying=90&gallery.categoryRequests=videobytag.aspx%3fmk%3dus%26vs%3d0%26ns%3dgallery%26tag%3dv5%2520hero%2520playlist%26sf%3dVideoId%26ipt%3d1
This woman who had a 5-year-old and a 3-year-old got a fellowship in Japan to do research for a book, and once she got there, realized she just didn't want to be a full-time mother anymore, and when she returned to the states, she left her family.
It's easy to dismiss her as selfish. My initial reaction before watching the whole video was "well, then why did you have kids, stupid?". My secondary reaction was simply that she got caught up in the mythos of the American Gothic, where all women are destined to be wives and have children, men are destined to be husbands and the provider, and that's the end of that. But neither of those are really fair to her. I think the reason I keep trying to reject her is the primal urge everyone has to protect children. She didn't realize that she didn't want to be a mother until she re-experienced freedom. It still sounds selfish, even as I type it, and when you hear her say that she didn't want to devote her whole life to someone else, but she makes some good points. Definitely worth watching, and thinking about.
Faeini
15 years ago
i've been reading the sweep books
ROzbeans
15 years ago
Preordered Ghost Story to my itouch/kindle. Screw waiting.
ROzbeans
15 years ago
I'm on verizon and can upgrade to a new p hone now - anyone else have verizon (no i do not want to change) and has a decent phone with a qwerty and a battery that lasts at least a day?
Verileah
15 years ago
RE: Pharren's derail
People do this all the time. The fact that this woman thought her experiences merited a book is the truly self indulgent part.
People do this all the time. The fact that this woman thought her experiences merited a book is the truly self indulgent part.
pharren
15 years ago
I think the book sounds rather interesting, especially the bolded parts, but that is obviously due to my fascination with the research of The Great and Powerful Elizabeth Loftus.
What I thought was worthy of note about the situation as presented by the video is the double standard. A lot of people automatically respond to this with some sort of disgust or horror initially (myself included), whereas if it were a man, at least for me, it's not anything extraordinary. Sure, it happens, but not often, according to the video (1%? 4%? I don't feel like watching it again atm).
So, it has me thinking about these things:
1.) Why is it that less mothers leave their families than fathers? Societal inhibitions? Some sort of instinctive maternal drive to stay? They said something around 25% of women say they'd like to leave, but only 1% (4% ??? maybe I should re-watch) actually do.
2.) Why does the double standard exist? Is it just another man vs woman double standard like we have for damn near every other aspect of life? Is it some sort of instinctive maternal/paternal drive within us as spectators?
In June 2001 Rahna Reiko Rizzuto went to Hiroshima in search of a deeper understanding of her war-torn heritage. She planned to spend six months there, interviewing the few remaining survivors of the atomic bomb. A mother of two young boys, she was encouraged to go by her husband, who quickly became disenchanted by her absence.
It is her first solo life adventure, immediately exhilarating for her, but her research starts off badly. Interviews with the hibakusha feel rehearsed, and the survivors reveal little beyond published accounts. Then the attacks on September 11 change everything. The survivors' carefully constructed memories are shattered, causing them to relive their agonizing experiences and to open up to Rizzuto in astonishing ways.
Separated from family and country while the world seems to fall apart, Rizzuto's marriage begins to crumble as she wrestles with her ambivalence about being a wife and mother. Woven into the story of her own awakening are the stories of Hiroshima in the survivors' own words. The parallel narratives explore the role of memory in our lives and show how memory is not history but a story we tell ourselves to explain who we are.
I think the book sounds rather interesting, especially the bolded parts, but that is obviously due to my fascination with the research of The Great and Powerful Elizabeth Loftus.
What I thought was worthy of note about the situation as presented by the video is the double standard. A lot of people automatically respond to this with some sort of disgust or horror initially (myself included), whereas if it were a man, at least for me, it's not anything extraordinary. Sure, it happens, but not often, according to the video (1%? 4%? I don't feel like watching it again atm).
So, it has me thinking about these things:
1.) Why is it that less mothers leave their families than fathers? Societal inhibitions? Some sort of instinctive maternal drive to stay? They said something around 25% of women say they'd like to leave, but only 1% (4% ??? maybe I should re-watch) actually do.
2.) Why does the double standard exist? Is it just another man vs woman double standard like we have for damn near every other aspect of life? Is it some sort of instinctive maternal/paternal drive within us as spectators?
Laschae
15 years ago
Woowoo just finished Mockingjay. Good books. I guess it wasn't so bad that CeCe hijacked it and took it to school at least I got to read it up tonight.
Lessa
15 years ago
its goood! I cant wait for the next.. in a year! *sobs*
WHAT?! New hollows book out? omgz how did I forget? Dang wedding planning has got me all jacked up.
its goood! I cant wait for the next.. in a year! *sobs*