Say Anything.

'Say Anything' is a John Cusak/Cameron Crowe 1989 teen flick. ' A noble underachiever and a beautiful valedictorian fall in love the summer before she goes off to college.' This is actually not what this thread is about, but the message is the same.

Actually no it isn't, I just like imdb.com and the title sounded interesting. /snort

This is not necessarily a vent thread - far from it. This is about saying anything - weather, the bird outside your work window, the fundamental differences between Mormons and catholics, how Law and Order Criminal Intent doesn't get the props it deserves, that I always forget whether it's 'it's' or 'its', that my daughter has a beautiful smile and the first guy that breaks her heart - I'm breaking his knees...it's about anything.

So, say anything.

Jetamio 14 years ago
See now in the UK, I never heard of the term illegal alien. That's a very American term from my experience. The UK does have a lot of immigrants, many of them were staying illegally from Turkey and Albania etc, and we called all of them immigrants. Never aliens. Of course, it doesn't matter now with those countries becoming part of the EU and they can come and work in the UK for as long as they like.
Lessa 14 years ago
Not getting into it. Sorry Pharren. I like everyone here, and I don't want to argue cause my opinions are different.. It won't change how any of us feel. :)
Laschae 14 years ago
Hey the issue of the day of marriage equality not illegals! =P
Jetamio 14 years ago
I don't care who marries who lol. Same sex marriage doesn't bother me in the slightest. Other than the normal wtf are they married and I'm still single envy :P
Lessa 14 years ago
Well I am all for that.. :D

People shoul dbe able to marry who they want and raise children with who they want as long as they can take good care of them and love them..
Jetamio 14 years ago
I'm not even back yet and I've triggered a shit storm with my parents with a tiny little comment.

Seriously, when I get back, I'm going to get tested for Aspergers, because it would explain ALOT of things in my life if I do actually have it.
Lessa 14 years ago
Ever think it might not be you? :p
Laschae 14 years ago
I saw that on face book :( I'm sorry how it turned out.
Jetamio 14 years ago
Well I've always liked to think it wasn't me, or I've put it on the way I was raised. But maybe it is me. Maybe I am the one whose fucked up. Maybe I am an attention seeker.

There was no need for the shit they said to me. My sister blew it all way the fuck out of proportion, then decided to get my stepfather involved, and he loves to have an excuse to call me a whiny self centered person. He doesn't know shit. He doesn't know what any of us went through. My mum still fucking denies half the shit I remember. I must have made it ALL up , just to get attention? Because I LIKE flinching every time someone raises a hand to me, or crying when someone shouts at me. Yeah, I love being a wuss. As for my sister, she's got a fucking nerve after the shit SHE put them through only a few years ago. She's in no position to get on her high horse and call me a bitch. And how am I supposed to know everything thats going on when they won't fucking speak to me! Skype is free...and they have internet...but my Mum won't come online to speak to me once a week. Her TV shows are more important. But I never complain...I never make a drama about it. I've slowly learned, that I just don't matter. And people can call me melodramatic all they want, they don't know me. They don't know the pain and rage that I could unleash if I really wanted to be dramatic.

I'm honestly at my wits end. I just can't deal with them. And they were all I had left. But I can't live in fear of saying something that offends them, even when it's not meant to be offensive. I'm supposed to be going there in 3 days, and am now trying to rearrange stuff to go back to Scotland instead. Thankfully I have an 'aunt' there whose actually excited to see me again.

I wish things weren't like this. Wish I didn't have to go back. If I hadn't been so desperate to escape 3 years ago, I'd have got the work permit and shit I needed back then. But I couldn't take it anymore. I thought I was stronger now, but I'm not. I've cried all day. Or maybe it's not me, and it's them that are psycho. Either way, I have to stay away. For all our sakes.



And sorry. Had to vent. No-one else to vent to.
pharren 14 years ago
My mum still fucking denies half the shit I remember. I must have made it ALL up , just to get attention? Because I LIKE flinching every time someone raises a hand to me, or crying when someone shouts at me.


Sounds like my father, denying that he ever threatened my sister and I with such reasonable punishments as bashing our heads through the walls. Now whenever somebody does any of the things he used to do to intimidate us, I start having anxiety attacks and get violent. Unfortunately, some of those things are otherwise totally innocent, like "walking slowly" and "standing while you're sitting"... makes getting along with other people properly a chore :P And since he can't understand why I don't want to be his pal, so he thinks he can actually force me to like him. Yeeeeeeeah. Not working so well.

I've slowly learned, that I just don't matter.


You got it backwards.

Or maybe it's not me, and it's them that are psycho.


There you go!

If my family stopped talking to me, I honestly wouldn't give a shit. The only person I care to talk to is my sister, and we talk pretty infrequently anyways. Wish I could share that indifference with you. It might not be "normal", but it looks like you could use it anyways... and really, there's no reason why you should continue trying to please people who are determined not to be pleased.
Laschae 14 years ago
Just sitting back and seeing what they said they seemed like they jumped the gun and got very emotional from the go. Hopefully you will find a better place to go and a fresh start.
Jetamio 14 years ago
I am pretty much indifferent to most of them...particularly my Dad's side. They didn't do anything wrong...they just didn't understand. The only ones I've kept sorta regular contact with is my mother and my sister. My brother is fine, he's just doesn't give a shit about anything lol. My mother didn't even get involved in this arguement, her husband and my sister were the ones who tore me a new asshole. But yeah, they're going on the indifference list. I've had enough.
Jetamio 14 years ago
Just sitting back and seeing what they said they seemed like they jumped the gun and got very emotional from the go. Hopefully you will find a better place to go and a fresh start.


Yep, that's my sister for you. But I'm the melodramatic one.
Laschae 14 years ago
Sometimes the best thing to do, for your own sanity, is to just walk the fuck away. It's really hard on the internet when it's all just text just saying something 'wrong' can set some one off.
Laschae 14 years ago
Kind of upset...Kami wakes up t his morning and notices a painting she did was vandalized...and who did it? Her loving big sister and CeCe's friend. Kami was really hurt and when I asked CeCe wtf she did it for she said "Well it wasn't being used anyway" wtf kind of excuse is that?! This is not the first time that CeCe and her friend have done this sort of thing when they were here. Last time it was the girls desks. We're planning on driving 6 hours to Denver this weekend for a mini vacation so we can go to the zoo, etc. You guys think that 13 is to young to be home alone for 2 days? Cuz really I don't want to be around CeCe. She is really turning into a selfish brat.
ROzbeans 14 years ago
Are you serious? 13 years old alone for two days? I'm not even sure that's legal, to be honest.
Laschae 14 years ago
From what I see here on the internet it's legal; most states don't have any laws in place about it. Nuts we don't have a cell phone or I might really entertain it....maybe.

Poor Kami. Yesterday she rode her bike to the library and when she was there she saw an anime magazine and thought CeCe would like it so she checked it out for her.
Lessa 14 years ago
I think in AZ you can babysit at 14.. so I would imagine that's the legal age to leave kids alone. You can't send her to one of the neighbor's or a friend's house for the weekend?

I woul definitely ground her from the friend who seem sto be egging her on w hen it comes to destroying someone else's property

That kid wouldn't be allowed in my house any more.
Laschae 14 years ago
It seems like there are more loose guidelines based on maturity level. I wouldn't really leave her I have never let them be alone for more than an hour ish. And that's only recently. Hell I've never even had another person babysit them. But we aren't big on punishment mostly because we really don't know what to do. I think for the time being she is no longer allowed to be around that friend and the kid is not coming here again. They were completely rude to me when she was here, using my computer and doing stuff when I asked them not to. But if I just let it go Kami will think it's ok for people to treat her, and her stuff, like crap. The last time this kid was over she carved her name and a bunch of other crap into CeCe's desk and was playing Kami's $600 violin I haven't even got paid off yet. And Erik asked her to not play with the violin.
pharren 14 years ago
Man, what were you guys doing at 13? School is out... pretty sure a 13-year-old can fend for themselves for two days, even in the perilous wilds of modern suburbia. Leave them a bunch of microwavable food, some emergency money, a list of phone numbers, and peace out brats! Maybe leave a neighbor a key to the house if there's one you trust. I fought my first grizzly bear at age 6 and started my first cartel by the time I was 10. I think they can handle it. Don't underestimate your kids! They may manifest surprising maturity when given a chance.