ROUND 7 - OOC DISCUSSION

Lynch/Mafia - Keriath

Verileah 14 years ago
What. The fuck.
CaptainBinky 14 years ago
Did not see that coming at all o_O
Greywood 14 years ago
HOW THE FUCK IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?@!
ROzbeans 14 years ago
Vulash 14 years ago
Only two mafia in that scene. The trench coat seems to be the clue, or someone being tempted to rise above their station
Verileah 14 years ago
Aw, we aren't yelling at you Roz, we're just like mindblown here is all.

So, before Greywood's head explodes:
I guess what happened was the mafia did their SKID early assuming Shutupsara (or someone other than Keriath) would die. I don't know any other way to explain what happened. But I'm still stunned.
CaptainBinky 14 years ago
Doesn't this rather turn on it's head Vulash's point though about the "suspicious block" of people voting for Victor? Knowing that the Victor SKID had gone in, why would the mafia vote in a way that means only one person dies this round?

Smells to me like you have your logic backwards, Vulash, in light of this

It means, either Sara is mafia after all or they're both townies and that block is exactly reversed.
Vulash 14 years ago
CaptainBinky;99164
Doesn't this rather turn on it's head Vulash's point though about the "suspicious block" of people voting for Victor? Knowing that the Victor SKID had gone in, why would the mafia vote in a way that means only one person dies this round?

Smells to me like you have your logic backwards, Vulash, in light of this


I don't follow your logic, or why Keriath being a townie convinces you that we need to look more closely at me lol.
Vulash 14 years ago
So let me sum this up. You convinced people there were clues for Victor when there weren't, but somehow because the mafia hits Keriath I'm the one that's wrong. You didn't think this would look suspiciously like a frame?
CaptainBinky 14 years ago
I didn't say we should look more closely at you specifically, Vulash, I was saying that the block of people you called suspicious for voting for Victor could now be seen the other way round - the people voting for Sara (if she's townie too) would be the suspicious ones in light of this kill.

Obv not all of the people voting for her would be mafia in the same way as by your logic earlier, not all of the people voting for Victor could be mafia. It just changes the way we need to look at the votes, that's all. (IF she's townie)

Vulash;99166
So let me sum this up. You convinced people there were clues for Victor when there weren't, but somehow because the mafia hits Keriath I'm the one that's wrong. You didn't think this would look suspiciously like a frame?


Sorry, but there were clues pointing at Keriath - granted clues that turned out to be false, but let's not re-write history by suddenly pretending that the clues against Sara were any more solid than those against Keriath. We already concluded towards the end of the thread that they were both probably townie.

If that is indeed the case, you would expect the mafia to vote for Sara so that they get two kills.

The other way to look at it is that Sara is mafia but I stand by the lack of decent clues.

edit: I would also posit that Sara could still be Sheriff. Since I drew attention to the fact that a mafia hit on her would prove this I may have guarenteed that no such hit could then take place. It depends when they put their SKID in which, judging by the way this turned out MUST have been fairly early.

Also, if her Boris ID is genuine, the mafia may have decided not to hit her since her lynching was at that time a dead cert.

Does the Godfather HAVE to be the person to put in SKIDS? Could we look at people who were conspicuously absent in the period of time when the voting swung from Sara to Victor?
Vulash 14 years ago
Oh yea:

Round 1 -- Eve: Not Mafia
Round 2 -- Pharren: Not Mafia
Round 3 -- Slipnish: Not Mafia
Round 4 -- Vulash: Not Mafia
Round 5 -- Ksagag: Not Mafia
Round 6 -- Verileah: MAFIA
Verileah 14 years ago
So we start off with an argument between the remaining mafia, with one clearly uncaring about collateral damage but the shooter being concerned about that. Interesting, more to add to the profile.

They watch him struggle to speak.

The person who blew up Victor 'just knew' what to do with the explosives. Not necessarily any training in that area. Just knew in their mind.

The same person admired Victor's trench coat.

All I got for now.
Vulash 14 years ago
If you take out the round 6 ID - you can see why I was convinced Sara was mafia since she claimed to be the sheriff. I'm not going to reveal everything, but quite honestly I dont' feel like defending my every action - you guys can take it or leave it. I will say that not only have I approached it from several angles to ensure the sheriff wasn't lying to me, but that I'm also working with the doctor and from here on out I'll be ensuring the sheriff stays alive. So I'm open to be hit I guess - but if you take me out someone else will step up with the continued SKIDS.

Obviously I'll be voting for Verileah
Verileah 14 years ago
Oh hi.

Okay, either you're being lied to or you're doing the lying.

Lie #1
I am not mafia.

Lie #2
How was Eve ID'ed when she died the first round? Not possible.

Lie #3
Vulash you claimed to know who the sheriff was, implying the sheriff was now dead
Vulash 14 years ago
Lie #1 is not a lie.

Lie #2 is possible - I don't care to explain.

Lie # - that was indeed a lie - I was protecting the knowledge that the sheriff was alive as long as possible. I do believe that is understandable.
Verileah 14 years ago
I'm having trouble imagining you getting played, so I guess you're doing the playing.
Vulash 14 years ago
The farewell post by Nadiya was a nice touch to make you look innocent. then of course the coming to me all upset you might die and how I should be the one to die instead because you were more important and could rally the troops better.

I can go through your bio if people aren't convinced.
Verileah 14 years ago
That's a remarkable distortion of our conversation.

How about you explain how your sheriff got an ID on a dead person?
Vulash 14 years ago
It's not my place, and I'm not explaining myself to mafia - no offense.

Looking at new clues: Why send everyone out for a first aid kid when you have one in your purse? If you were a townie running for a first aid kit it seems like you'd have known it was in your purse.

Sewing kit has needles that are thin, but not bladed.

Food references

Tiny - probably the most unassuming in the entire game

There was the italian shoes clue - you have the Gucci purse AND a shoe repair kit

crayons could fit the color motif

bottle opener could also be small and not bladed

a multi tool - see above

napkins and kleenex, efficient,a nd maternal streak compared with our constant cleanliness clues

and I'm pretty sure there wsa a security guard clue, but I forget it
Greywood 14 years ago
The same way the same person got lynched and hit at the same time.