The time has come....

Rent a convertible, and buy a gift card to a nice store. Drive her there and tell her to pick out something nice. Drive said convertible to a hotel that has in room jacuzzis, check in, drive to dinner. Enjoy dinner. Propose any time after dinner has been enjoyed. If you are not worried about your chastity, have sex shortly after for maximum effect.

/just sayin'
//Oh, and congrats.

get ring, get duct tape, wait til shes asleep write marry me in marker on her forehead, put the ring on her forhead and then cover with duct tape, when she gets up in the morning and taks the tape off Voila!

Hmm...I think age and time does have a little to do with it. Not everyone, and I'd venture so far as to say no one, is in the state of mind at 17 to go through with that kind of life altering decision. My husband was 17 and I was 18 when we started dating, and we got married at 21 and 22 respectively...and I've been married almost 10 years now...but there are days when I think back at how stupid and naive I was and realize we were actually pretty lucky we made it through to now. It's really hard to make a marriage work if you don't know who you are yet. Your viewpoints on life change so drastically even between the ages of 20 to 25 that you stand a pretty good risk of the person you're with changing in a completely opposite direction. I'm thankful that my husband is open minded enough and patient enough to have allowed me room to grow and change without it affecting his own growth. For Mizen, at 27, he's pretty set...and women to tend to know what the deal is earlier than guys do so from an age standpoint, they're probably in pretty good shape. But they don't know everything about eachother yet, not by a long shot. You always think you know a person...but stuff comes to the surface years later, especially as viewpoints change and you get older, that will still surprise you. It's just a matter of being open to change.

And it's virtually impossible to buy a decent engagement ring and pay for a decent sized wedding or go on a nice honeymoon if you haven't been gainfully employed for a couple years. Unless you manage to con the parents into paying for it. Man, that woulda been swell.

That's a pretty funny idea actually. If she's got the right kind of sense of humour it might work ;)

Woot, umm pregrats? hehe
My hubby an dI where dating for like 6 months before I guess I proposed lol. I was living with a co worker have money problems and came home one day to our house with a For Sale sign stuck in the forunt yard. I called him and we where bitching about it and i just said randomly, fuck it lets get married (sinced hes active AF and has the housing bonus ;)) and he without missing a beat siad yes. 10 years later here we are , I 'm still in love with him prolly moreso now then before. yay!!

So I'm not much on advise on my personal experiences lol The posted suggestions all sound nice but it really depends on you guys style. Like my friends where really into skating and went to the rink every friday night so he was really good friends with the people that owned it and after awhile of skating and BSing around he went out in the middle of the rink with her and the owners dropped all the lights and spotlighted them as he got on knee and propsed. corny but cute, it worked cuz thats their "style ya know hehe.
My friend Carol's hubby proposed to her at a resturant they loved to dine at when they got enough money. They ordered their dinner and had the waiter bring out a salad , when the waiter presented the salad he took off the cover and told them "your garden salad with extra carrots" and had placed the rign box open in the middle of this fresh salad LOL

Anywas good luck to you w/e you decide =D *squeals* you mush inform everyone on what you did tho hehe

IMO the biggest problem today is people have disagrements and get divorced rather than deal with them / solve them.. If you're both comitted and agree that divorce is NOT an option, then work through what ever comes up. Coming from divorced parents, I don;t believe in it, so therefore it's not an option to me.. And heh.. ya see I am not normal in many ways. I really have changed very little since I was 18, in fact it's X's number one complaint about me, I don't grow. And, I was annoyed he got me a ring with a diamond, I wanted a plain silver or gold band, and hell.. no way did we spend money on a wedding! Down to the courthouse.. sign, sign.. done. Of course now I kind of wish I'd had a wedding and all that but no way in hell would I spend the money to have the wedding I want, unless I win the lottery. I'm too practical for such stupid crap you have to buy..

One word of advice though, before you get married Miz... have a long talk about finances and your attitudes about them and money in general. It's the #1 thing couples fight about statisticly (and I can say from my experience that's true!)

That is why it took me 15 years to propose. No Lie. :)

Money is the ONLY think Mike and I fight about ;) Money and who has control of the remote...

Money or lack there of ? The last divorce statistic I read money was the # 1 issue in divorce in this country. Not that Im saying you guys are making it that big of an issue.

S

Hehe yeah lack thereof ;) If we had more of it there would be less reason to argue right?
I have very expensive tastes...and Mike is very easily pleased so we argue about things like curtains...I'd like to spend $500 or so to curtain up our whole house. Mike doesn't see the need for curtains at all. Eventually we find a happy medium.

I bought an $80 shower curtain which he gasped and sputtered about, even though I had a gift card and a 20% discount. But then he saw it and realized it was the best shower curtain of all time.

I go out and spend $50 on buying him underpants, and he says we don't have money for it. I point out that his testicles are showing and he sees things my way.

I have a bit of a chip on my shoulder because my mom was a stay-at-home mom, and she budgeted her money well but she wasn't working and that was always a cause of argument for my parents. Everything that we had was his because his money paid for it. So now I have a big paying job and I'll be damned if any man is going to tell me how I can spend my money...even if he's right ;) It's taken me many years to adjust my thinking to allow for the idea that he's not trying to strong arm me.

This made me LOL.

Whatever you do, make sure it involves boobs.

My ex went through all my saving in 4 years then filed for divorce. It was funny when the money ran out so did her "love for me". This is why I wont date or remarry any woman who cant take care of themselves financially. My current squeeze makes as much as I do so it's a non issue. Of course we always want more but hey we certainly are not roughing it.

S

Jesus Christ are you out of your fucking mind.

You're just jealous because I am not marrying you.

Do something outdoors in the Smokeys - nothing in the city will ever be as romantic.

Who me ??

Im far from insane.

S

No Nards meant Mizen. Nards still want to e-marry me, not you Mizen. /snort

i think it depends on the person. i got married young, 19/21 and we ended up getting divorced. We grew but never togteher. but then again we were dating since i was like 15. thats a early stage in yor life i'd say! He became more of control freak (like his family). Hes a good guy just not my good guy. =) I'm much happier now that i divorced him, and i found a great guy thats nothing like my ex. We are partners and that = thewin. You both have to want it to work in order for it too work. So age to me doesnt really matter or the amount of time your together. The chemistry is there or its not, and from day one you know it. even if you don't believe or want to believe it and get married anyways.

But then again this is comming from the girl who thinks women dont need men except to steal their sperm and single moms are hardcore and beautiful women! ( i love you family parents too cuz nowaday its harder than giving up!)

But you didnt ask for any of that mess you wanted proposal ideas. hmm hmm

i like the duct tape one, you could do one of those kidnapping things! where you hire a kidnapping? at the end you rip off your mask and ask her to marry you! =D

you ever see the movie : the game - its fucked up but a neat way to propose instead of a bday.

You both like Kenya(sp) west, so you like rap and r&b stuff. so lets think besides the neat concert idea (not if shes a shy person!) Make a cd of both all your favorite songs, special songs, song you like to sex to, then take a picture of the two of you and make a cd cover for it. Then put the track list on the back or inside and under each song a note about why you picked that song or a memory tied to it or why it makes you think about them. Have a candle light dinner in your home. (order fancy food like temp said) or cook if you rock. so subpar shit either. no grilled cheese or hamburger helper mister. Play the cd and at the end of it or after she reads the cd insert propose.

make sure lotsa candles and flowers of her favorite choice plus roses!

it is heart felt for sure plus you will get some tang shortly after for sure.

dude, the last song on the cd should be the song you'd like for your wedding song. and under it for description you could say

'the perfect song for our wedding'

and when she looks up at you and is like wtfm8 you already have the ring out to surprise her.