Open chat / What to tell your kids? / immy 21 years ago

What to tell your kids?

Ok, so my 5 year old has been asking about death lately. Asking if our dog, 15 years old, is going to die soon. Wanted to know if I was going to die. Wanted to know what happens after you die and why.

/sigh.

I'd honestly rather give him 'the talk', than talk about death with him.

I'm wiccan, so my beleif of the afterlife differs than that of my ex, hell, it differs than that of my whole family. I don't want to totally ignore my beleifs, nor do I want to ignore my families beleifs. So, I gave him all the different theories on it. Let him know some people think you'll go to heaven, some think you'll get reincarnated (try explaining reincarnation to a 5 year old), some think you'll become a spirit that stays on earth, and so on.

When he asked if our dog or myself would die, I told him everyone does. /sigh. Was that wrong of me to say? The way I worded it was, "Everyone dies, it's a part of life, just like being born and growing up is. Don't think of the dying part, that might make ya too sad, instead think of the now part."

He asked if we can see people once they're dead. I told him, in our dreams we can.

ugh.

I don't want to scar the poor boy. I hardly thought my 5 year old would be asking about death, and he totally caught me off gaurd.

So, I come to you now, what would you tell your child(ren)?

Anulien 21 years ago

ssoulz

even inside a platform developed completely in C or a derivative there are other languages that can and should be used that better take advantage of available resources which better accomplish the desired goals.

Named? Aside from assembly (which C precompiles to) there is no language that gives you the endless flexibility in memory, io and threads? Say Java and I will laugh really loud at work and then tell co-workers the joke.

ssoulz

how is that for a poor understanding of technology?

It was a perfect example, thank you.

ssoulz

if you can't see that my type style is this way for a purpose not due to any lack of typing and grammar ability

You defintely read past that one, the word typing was not used to describe your writing style or grammar but your conveyed knowledge of any computer subject. The word 'words' to replace 'typing' is a good correction since its easy to interpret that sentence as the grammar card.

ssoulz

try again, oh so bright one

Although I admire your ability to argue something till you are blue in the face you brought yourself down this tangent. You do not understand computing, AI, or programming well enough to continue any type of logical discussion involving the three to try and prove your point. Your point was lost long ago in the innacuracies of your analogy.

ssoulz 21 years ago

you pretty much summed up my beliefs mae.

i believe in God but i think religions are bogus. not that they don't or can't accomplish good things and work for many people, i just think that religion itself is a well thought out tool to keep mankind from evolving because if you believe and follow religion, you pretty much have no reason to continue trying to find answers to the mysteries.

Anulien 21 years ago

Verileah

What's amazing to me is that this discussion has gone on 5 pages without anyone calling anyone else either Hitler or a Nazi.

Veyah is a Nazi!

ROzbeans 21 years ago

ssoulz

i just think that religion itself is a well thought out tool to keep mankind from evolving because if you believe and follow religion, you pretty much have no reason to continue trying to find answers to the mysteries.

I'm not sure I believe that religion is used as a blindfold for the masses, I mean how seriously can you take a man who rides around in something called the 'pope-mobile' and is older than god himself. I just see life beyond the normal trappings of paying your taxes, worshipping your god and respecting your father. I see it as embracing life and everything around you. The dirt, the sky, the wind that blows thru my daugther's hair. Life is so much more than following the edicts of someone who lived and died over 2000 years ago. The world around me speaks differently. The ground we're walking on is older than 'God'. I'm not sure if we're reborn after we die, I only know I was probably born 300 years too early for my taste.

Anulien 21 years ago

Maelarya

I believe in Darwinism

I find it ironic that Darwin denounced his theory and promoted creation.

ROzbeans 21 years ago

Anulien

Maelarya
I believe in Darwinism

I find it ironic that Darwin denounced his theory and promoted creation.

Didnt read that far. Those thoeries I quoted make sense to me. Now I'll have to read the whole site =/

ssoulz 21 years ago

Named? Aside from assembly (which C precompiles to) there is no language that gives you the endless flexibility in memory, io and threads? Say Java and I will laugh really loud at work and then tell co-workers the joke.

and here is your problem. you think what you know already is all there is to know.

who is to say a whole other language and hardware hasn't been created that you know nothing about?

You defintely read past that one, the word typing was not used to describe your writing style or grammar but your conveyed knowledge of any computer subject. The word 'words' to replace 'typing' is a good correction since its easy to interpret that sentence as the grammar card.

nice try.

Although I admire your ability to argue something till you are blue in the face you brought yourself down this tangent. You do not understand computing, AI, or programming well enough to continue any type of logical discussion involving the three to try and prove your point. Your point was lost long ago in the innacuracies of your analogy.

and you are still stuck on programming and AI. i admire your tenacity for technology and programming but this discussion was about God, not who knows more about technology.

you just helped me prove exactly why i am against faith and religions.

sorry to end your self-belief of intellectual supremecy.

Anulien 21 years ago

ssoulz

who is to say a whole other language and hardware hasn't been created that you know nothing about?

Here comes the military top secret consipiracy theory again. Fear, uncertainty and doubt is a weak argument campaign. You've still failed to provide an example of a:

ssoulz

languages that can and should be used that better take advantage of available resources which better accomplish the desired goals.

ssoulz

sorry to end your self-belief of intellectual supremecy.

Impressario Anulien the Intellectually Supreme, nice ring. Although Intellectually Elite might work better. Or maybe a new AA title...Elitist Veyah. I will talk to a GM tonight.

ssoulz 21 years ago

dude, you are still looking for hard facts to some questions yet accept other answers on the strength of faith.

you are just further proving what i've been saying.

Nalla Trueheart 21 years ago

The idea of some evolution appeals to me for a reason. I do read the Bible and I do believe what it has taught me, however, it doesnt go into specifics, and there are open spots. Were Adam and Eve black, white, green, red, blue...? And if so, how did different races come to play? this is where i like the idea of some evolution to evolve our bodies to adapt to each situation. Brazillians couldnt possibly stand the sun if they were as pale as my ass is. Certain fish have learned to walk. Its wierd. I do believe that some things had to "evolve" to survive, but i dont believe really in evolution that we came from monkies.

oooh oohh eeyh oooh! :banana :dmonkey

Anulien 21 years ago

ssoulz

you are just further proving what i've been saying.

Right on, that long tangent showing how little you know of programming all to state:

ssoulz

you are still looking for hard facts to some questions yet accept other answers on the strength of faith.

And that disproves God or any reason to have faith how?

Gilae 21 years ago

Ssoulz...check your PMs!

ssoulz 21 years ago

And that disproves God or any reason to have faith how?

who said anything about disproving God?

how can you disprove something that can't be proven and is based ONLY on faith?

your only reason to have faith is because you can't prove your beliefs.

ssoulz 21 years ago

thanks for the sig gilae )

Anulien 21 years ago

ssoulz

And that disproves God or any reason to have faith how?

who said anything about disproving God?

how can you disprove something that can't be proven and is based ONLY on faith?

your only reason to have faith is because you can't prove your beliefs.

Or because I understand that proving anything to the magnitude that normally requires faith would be beyond human comprehension. Your beliefs also require faith, if Mae summed up your belief system then you live by faith also. Believing in what is scientifically able to be disproven still requires faith, you have faith no less than anyone else if your beliefs are based on theories. If were not able to be disproven it would become a scientific truth and there are very few of those.

ssoulz 21 years ago

Or because I understand that proving anything to the magnitude that normally requires faith would be beyond human comprehension. Your beliefs also require faith, if Mae summed up your belief system then you live by faith also. Believing in what is scientifically able to be disproven still requires faith, you have faith no less than anyone else if your beliefs are based on theories. If were not able to be disproven it would become a scientific truth and there are very few of those.

not really. belief wasn't the right word. i think that there is a God or many but i don't put stock in it. i think all religions are possible truths as much as they are possibly false.

if i can't physically touch it or witness it first hand, and even when i do witness certain questionable things, then it is nothing more than a possibility to me.

i removed the words belief and faith from my equation a long time ago.

i also think man is capable of ascending to a higher plane and that we are meant to evolve to become greater beings. which ofcourse also leads to the idea of other planes of existance. which i think is truth...

but i don't put stock in it.

and this also leads to the idea that religions were introduced to push us into a particular plane of existance that may not overall be our proper path of evolution. kinda like herding cattle to slaughter or maybe something not so terrible. it could be exactly what it's described to be but i think man has a potential path to become greater than it's maker... if we were actually made.

it's all concepts, questions, and discussion. there is no way i'm locking myself into some belief system just because some dude says he knows God personally and i should follow his beliefs... hello Davidian compound.

ssoulz 21 years ago

Or because I understand that proving anything to the magnitude that normally requires faith would be beyond human comprehension.

you see anulien this here is the problem i see and am trying to avoid.

i don't think anything is out of man's potential realm of understanding. to believe such a thing is blasphemous to the maker you believe exists.

don't you want your children to be greater than you? doesn't man make things that are supposed to do things better than us?

otherwise the purpose of creating humans is for pure entertainment. how Godly is that?

Gilae 21 years ago

ssoulz

thanks for the sig gilae )

Don't thank me hun, thank Anu...he's the funny man ;)
I just put his vision to graphics.

ssoulz 21 years ago

it's too funny.

the wall and graffiti is too much.

Guest 21 years ago

doesn't man make things that are supposed to do things better than us?

Nothing thus far, that I am aware of that human has made has been without err, therefore is not greater than any other human. Even computers only are made to do what the programmer and builder programmed them to do. Which is to say the same thing as that particular person. Not better or above them. Even cloning is only making the same pattern or thing again, rather than creating something new.