ROUND 3 OOC
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ROzbeans
15 years ago
I kid. I still do. :makeout
Kilandra
15 years ago
I understand the vote thread and the difference, can't help the net being down though, but I get it, and understand how you can't trust people. good thing I decided to vote early :)
Keriath
15 years ago
Vulash is evil. Its a well known fact he needs to die. And if he is by chance a townie (which is highly doubt) He still needs to die on principle ;)
Greywood
15 years ago
It's a HUGE risk for the sheriff to be taking...and the doctor may be wasting their saves. Plus, what if the doctor already used a save on Vulash and/or Captain Binky? I think, going by the Mafia FAQ thread, that the doctor can only choose to save someone twice. If that's the case and they have already used saves on those people then there are more holes in your plan...this could be a pretty huge plan however, I just feel sorry for the sheriff if they are still alive!
Greywood
15 years ago
Oh and one more thing....
We do have every reason to believe that the SK is dead but humor me. Let's say the SK decided to NOT submit a SK kill for this round. Would there be precedence for that? What would the motives for this be and how would it effect the outcome of the game and Vulash's plan as well as our intended votes?
We do have every reason to believe that the SK is dead but humor me. Let's say the SK decided to NOT submit a SK kill for this round. Would there be precedence for that? What would the motives for this be and how would it effect the outcome of the game and Vulash's plan as well as our intended votes?
ROzbeans
15 years ago
The only reason I'd kinda understand the SK not submitting a vote (other than being dead) is because they forgot. No one's not put one in if they could (not that I can recall). Seems like that would be more a detriment to their success, doesn't it?
pharren
15 years ago
Thanks again for reminding me just how epic it was. *basks in his own glory*
That was me you told you 'got the time zone wrong'. OMG I HATED YOU!!!! The one and only time I got SO into the game that I completely lost my shit over the vote. It was to lynch Geeii, who ended up being the doctor, who saved me when you fuckers tried to hit me...the serial killer. Pharren won by killing me in the last round - ONLY BECAUSE MAFIA HITS GO FIRST!
Thanks again for reminding me just how epic it was. *basks in his own glory*
pharren
15 years ago
Or a VEEEEEERRRY clever plan to prevent more clues popping up pointing to them just yet. Like something Vulash would do.
Seems like that would be more a detriment to their success, doesn't it?
Or a VEEEEEERRRY clever plan to prevent more clues popping up pointing to them just yet. Like something Vulash would do.
Wystro
15 years ago
It's getting hard to figure out who to trust -- it's like a big chess game out here!
Ksagag
15 years ago
Gah I am getting so confused!! My head is spinning... damn you all! :(
Vulash
15 years ago
Thank you for the assistance in securing your own guilt.
Kilandra;98239
first off, I didn't vote the second time, as explained, because my net was down. I posted who I was going to have voted for so everyone would be aware. Didn't count, wouldn't have changed the outcome, but I had planned to vote for the Professor. Ooc comments? *shrugs* You can take whatever you want from them. Yes, things obviously match my character, but the same could be said for your own, and Greywood, and a few others. So, since I apparently like to point fingers, just remember :) for every finger you point, you've got three more pointing back at you :P
You seem oftly big out to save your own skin, that in itself is rather glaring. You've devised this great big plan about why everyone else is guilty, even going to the lengths of trying to convince the dr to save you two days, the sheriff to start IDing people, everyone to follow your lead. Hm... why should they? What are YOU trying to hide? ;)
However, I do have to commend you for compiling the list, well done hehe
Thank you for the assistance in securing your own guilt.
Kilandra
15 years ago
I always feel guilty. Try harder :P
Vulash
15 years ago
Most of these don't matter. It doesn't matter that much if the Doctor is dead. The mafia only knows what we know concerning the townie roles. The fact that I posted the plan at all means any SKID they submit is a gamble - which influences their gameplan. The worst case scenario is you guys think I'm lying out of my ass, the doctor is dead, and they gamble a hit on me and kill me. In that case 1) Townies will say "oh shit vulash wasn't mafia, and 2) I've still affected their gameplan in some way - kind of an art of war thing.
If I do die it doesn't necessarily mean I was right though - if I had all 5 wrong they might kill me to make people think i was right. It's a gamble, but those are all worst case scenarios. I don't believe the doctor is dead, and I think the doctor will protect me - I think the mafia will lose a SKID if they try - another win - and THEN we would know for sure I was a townie.
1 and 2 of your points is legit. We could both be mafia. I tried to pick someone (or I'm telling you I am mwauahahah) that had almost no clues (except a few by people on my list that didn't make sense) so that the sheriff would feel secure. It may not work out.
As far as voting patterns. Whether Ruth was SK or not doesn't matter. I say that Olivia/Ruth fits a mafia pattern of voting because neither are mafia. Mafia are going to want to hang someone that isn't mafia as long as another mafia is on the ropes. The person on the ropes in day 2 was Gongaa, so maybe there was no pressure for that vote - I had to look at both days. Like I said I need another day or two to be sure of anything, and voting in that way by no means means you're mafia - but it doesn't go against it. There were a couple of voting patterns that go against it - and OOC. The one thing for Myraan is that when her ass was on the line in day 1 - instead of heaping more clues at Olivia to ensure she lived she pointed at Danielle. Then later she came back with some weaksauce clues for Olivia and said "So now I think its olivia, not danielle" - I'm pretty sure that was her. I'll double check and get the quotes.
Here is the important thing. Doing SOMETHING is better then willy nilly voting every day. The mafia ARE influencing our votes whether we like it or not. By continuing at our pace we let them form a gameplan and execute it. By coming up with something like this - we force them to react, and possibly fuck up. That is on top of the fact that I think I have a solid list.
The only other person I would be willing to trust other than Binky is Joel (Pharren) as much as I hate too. He has as little evidence, and his OOC speaks highly of being townie. The problem is Pharren is good - very good - and has completely fooled me in the past. If the sheriff is more comfortable there I'm ok with that, but if that happens Pharren would need to post publicaly as soon as the sheriff contacts him so the Doctor can start saving him as well. I'm not willing to negotiate people as the trusted goat because that will also be mafia influenced. I know I'm a townie, and I know I"m not influenced as a result. So there :P
I'm not too worried about multiple people claiming to be the sheriff as long as Binky lets me know. If they do they're fucked. If I have to choose between two I will beat you. If all 4-6 want to do it and give me a complete fucking list I'll just hang the sheriff too knowing the other 4-6 the game would be over the sheriff would be the hero. If you're a townie and you do this.. shame on you.
pharren;98246
My initial reaction to this was "wtf?" but after thinking about it, she may be right. I didn't see any clues pointing towards Smith as the SK, whereas I did see a bunch pointing at Ruth, but it *IS* certainly possible. The SK is clearly dead. The question is which one of the two was the SK? The SK lynch had several clues that have only appeared in Mafia hits so far. Why?
I'm not sure that it even matters who was the SK, but maybe Vulash will have some way of interpreting the voting results if it turns out that Smith was the SK instead of Ruth. I'm still not sure why he suspects people who voted for Ruth; the clues were pretty blatant, and killing the SK ASAP still sounds like a great idea to me as a Townie (although Spirtis' idea of letting the SK live to hopefully kill some Mafia does have merit, that's more brave than I wish to be). But obviously he thinks voting for Ruth was meaningful in some way other than self-preservation, so... I don't know? I don't understand how his psychological evaluation of the voting works.
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I think Vulash's "battle plan" is a stroke of motherfucking genius. I think it will work. BUT! It does have some holes - pretty big ones.
1.) Capt. Binkster might be Mafia
2.) Vulash might be Mafia
3.) Multiple "Sheriffs" could PM Binky (I suppose Vulash has a plan in place for this, though. Anyone PMing Binky takes a HUGE risk, even if they are innocent, especially if he gets more than one PM; instant Vulash-o-scope on them, and he's not ALWAYS right... just usually)
4.) The Sheriff might be dead
5.) The Doctor might be dead
6.) The Doctor or the Sheriff may not be interested in playing ball
7.) The Mafia might get lucky and kill Vulash or Binky on one of the days that the save isn't used on them
Still... stroke of genius. Very high potential.
Anyhow... going through bios again for more cocaine clues!
Most of these don't matter. It doesn't matter that much if the Doctor is dead. The mafia only knows what we know concerning the townie roles. The fact that I posted the plan at all means any SKID they submit is a gamble - which influences their gameplan. The worst case scenario is you guys think I'm lying out of my ass, the doctor is dead, and they gamble a hit on me and kill me. In that case 1) Townies will say "oh shit vulash wasn't mafia, and 2) I've still affected their gameplan in some way - kind of an art of war thing.
If I do die it doesn't necessarily mean I was right though - if I had all 5 wrong they might kill me to make people think i was right. It's a gamble, but those are all worst case scenarios. I don't believe the doctor is dead, and I think the doctor will protect me - I think the mafia will lose a SKID if they try - another win - and THEN we would know for sure I was a townie.
1 and 2 of your points is legit. We could both be mafia. I tried to pick someone (or I'm telling you I am mwauahahah) that had almost no clues (except a few by people on my list that didn't make sense) so that the sheriff would feel secure. It may not work out.
As far as voting patterns. Whether Ruth was SK or not doesn't matter. I say that Olivia/Ruth fits a mafia pattern of voting because neither are mafia. Mafia are going to want to hang someone that isn't mafia as long as another mafia is on the ropes. The person on the ropes in day 2 was Gongaa, so maybe there was no pressure for that vote - I had to look at both days. Like I said I need another day or two to be sure of anything, and voting in that way by no means means you're mafia - but it doesn't go against it. There were a couple of voting patterns that go against it - and OOC. The one thing for Myraan is that when her ass was on the line in day 1 - instead of heaping more clues at Olivia to ensure she lived she pointed at Danielle. Then later she came back with some weaksauce clues for Olivia and said "So now I think its olivia, not danielle" - I'm pretty sure that was her. I'll double check and get the quotes.
Here is the important thing. Doing SOMETHING is better then willy nilly voting every day. The mafia ARE influencing our votes whether we like it or not. By continuing at our pace we let them form a gameplan and execute it. By coming up with something like this - we force them to react, and possibly fuck up. That is on top of the fact that I think I have a solid list.
The only other person I would be willing to trust other than Binky is Joel (Pharren) as much as I hate too. He has as little evidence, and his OOC speaks highly of being townie. The problem is Pharren is good - very good - and has completely fooled me in the past. If the sheriff is more comfortable there I'm ok with that, but if that happens Pharren would need to post publicaly as soon as the sheriff contacts him so the Doctor can start saving him as well. I'm not willing to negotiate people as the trusted goat because that will also be mafia influenced. I know I'm a townie, and I know I"m not influenced as a result. So there :P
I'm not too worried about multiple people claiming to be the sheriff as long as Binky lets me know. If they do they're fucked. If I have to choose between two I will beat you. If all 4-6 want to do it and give me a complete fucking list I'll just hang the sheriff too knowing the other 4-6 the game would be over the sheriff would be the hero. If you're a townie and you do this.. shame on you.
Vulash
15 years ago
I don't think I need to - you have 3-4 days left.
Kilandra;98268
I always feel guilty. Try harder :P
I don't think I need to - you have 3-4 days left.
Vulash
15 years ago
How would the doctor be wasting saves? Right now there is no rhyme or reason that anyone has seen for the mafia hits. The doctor is essentially "guessing". At least this way it's put to use.
Greywood;98257
It's a HUGE risk for the sheriff to be taking...and the doctor may be wasting their saves. Plus, what if the doctor already used a save on Vulash and/or Captain Binky? I think, going by the Mafia FAQ thread, that the doctor can only choose to save someone twice. If that's the case and they have already used saves on those people then there are more holes in your plan...this could be a pretty huge plan however, I just feel sorry for the sheriff if they are still alive!
How would the doctor be wasting saves? Right now there is no rhyme or reason that anyone has seen for the mafia hits. The doctor is essentially "guessing". At least this way it's put to use.
nickenstien
15 years ago
One tiny animal reference? Too big to pass up?
And yet:
A _slight_ animal tie in? (his bio- ELEPHANTS ELEPHANTS ELEPHANTS ELEPHANTS!)
Does this not seem like massively exaggerating my animal connection and massively downplaying CaptainBinky's?
You state also that nothing else from his bio is matches any of the clues. I think you will find the same is true for me.
MAFIA SHENANIGANS!
Vulash;98235
The professor: I can't help but the think the extinction and animal planet things were just too big to pass up.
One tiny animal reference? Too big to pass up?
And yet:
Vulash;98235
THIRD: We need a safe goat - I Nominate CaptainBinky because of all the bios his is the only one with relatively no to few clues. He has a slight animal tie in, but we've seen nothing about writing, typing, elephants, peanuts, string etc that would point at him.
A _slight_ animal tie in? (his bio- ELEPHANTS ELEPHANTS ELEPHANTS ELEPHANTS!)
Does this not seem like massively exaggerating my animal connection and massively downplaying CaptainBinky's?
You state also that nothing else from his bio is matches any of the clues. I think you will find the same is true for me.
MAFIA SHENANIGANS!
Vulash
15 years ago
I find obsessing about an elephant, and being an expert on genetics when facing an extinction clue severely different. If you want I can comb your bio
nickenstien;98275
One tiny animal reference? Too big to pass up?
And yet:
A _slight_ animal tie in? (his bio- ELEPHANTS ELEPHANTS ELEPHANTS ELEPHANTS!)
Does this not seem like massively exaggerating my animal connection and massively downplaying CaptainBinky's?
You state also that nothing else from his bio is matches any of the clues. I think you will find the same is true for me.
MAFIA SHENANIGANS!
I find obsessing about an elephant, and being an expert on genetics when facing an extinction clue severely different. If you want I can comb your bio
nickenstien
15 years ago
Well you have began your smear campaign based on nothing Mr. Mafia man, so I already expect you to sling more shit my way. ;)
Vulash;98276
If you want I can comb your bio
Well you have began your smear campaign based on nothing Mr. Mafia man, so I already expect you to sling more shit my way. ;)
Vulash
15 years ago
Professor
Name:
Professor Horatio Fwaffernagle Vanderkrumpt IV
Character description:
The professor is an average sized middle aged man, with wild white hair, a bushy white brow, a piercing glare and the expression of a mind in constant furious contemplation. He wears a monocle crafted from a rhino's kneecap.
He is blunt with everyone he meets and regards all around him with utter contempt, for continuing to hedonistically indulge in their own pointless and trivial existence. (Fits multiple quotes from mafia)
Items in your pockets:
Slide rule.
Blob of blu-tac.
Diary containing scribbled coded notes and observations of a recent experiment.
Menu for Bianco's deli.
Wallet holding cash and bankcard.
Some Flubber.
The 'Fwaffernagle quantum de-twizzler core' prototype model 6.
Aleister Crowley's autobiography. (Here is the wiki on that: Aleister Crowley (pronounced /ˈkroʊli/; 12 October 1875 – 1 December 1947), born Edward Alexander Crowley, and also known as both Frater Perdurabo and The Great Beast, was an influential English occultist, mystic and ceremonial magician, responsible for founding the religious philosophy of Thelema) (emphasis on ceremonial)
Occupation:
He is regarded as something of a polymath with a broad knowledge in many classical scientific and parascientific fields. His specific work/research is a family secret. All that is known is that he is continuing the work of his father, and grandfather before him.
Reason for being in the bank:
To place the 'Fwaffernagle quantum de-twizzler core' prototype model 6 in his family's secure lockbox.
History:
He is a reclusive man, who rarely leaves the laboratory within the grounds of his family estate (sounds like a life of luxary), to which he is the sole surviving heir.
He has published papers on varied scientific concepts, and is regarded by some as a genius for his insights on genetics (extinction), and by many more as an utter lunatic (crazy motif) for his insatiable interests in the paranormal and the occult.
My words in parenthesis. Bold for emphasis. As I said - it could be gongaa....but I'm leaning you atm
Name:
Professor Horatio Fwaffernagle Vanderkrumpt IV
Character description:
The professor is an average sized middle aged man, with wild white hair, a bushy white brow, a piercing glare and the expression of a mind in constant furious contemplation. He wears a monocle crafted from a rhino's kneecap.
He is blunt with everyone he meets and regards all around him with utter contempt, for continuing to hedonistically indulge in their own pointless and trivial existence. (Fits multiple quotes from mafia)
Items in your pockets:
Slide rule.
Blob of blu-tac.
Diary containing scribbled coded notes and observations of a recent experiment.
Menu for Bianco's deli.
Wallet holding cash and bankcard.
Some Flubber.
The 'Fwaffernagle quantum de-twizzler core' prototype model 6.
Aleister Crowley's autobiography. (Here is the wiki on that: Aleister Crowley (pronounced /ˈkroʊli/; 12 October 1875 – 1 December 1947), born Edward Alexander Crowley, and also known as both Frater Perdurabo and The Great Beast, was an influential English occultist, mystic and ceremonial magician, responsible for founding the religious philosophy of Thelema) (emphasis on ceremonial)
Occupation:
He is regarded as something of a polymath with a broad knowledge in many classical scientific and parascientific fields. His specific work/research is a family secret. All that is known is that he is continuing the work of his father, and grandfather before him.
Reason for being in the bank:
To place the 'Fwaffernagle quantum de-twizzler core' prototype model 6 in his family's secure lockbox.
History:
He is a reclusive man, who rarely leaves the laboratory within the grounds of his family estate (sounds like a life of luxary), to which he is the sole surviving heir.
He has published papers on varied scientific concepts, and is regarded by some as a genius for his insights on genetics (extinction), and by many more as an utter lunatic (crazy motif) for his insatiable interests in the paranormal and the occult.
My words in parenthesis. Bold for emphasis. As I said - it could be gongaa....but I'm leaning you atm
Vulash
15 years ago
So the fact that I'm pointing a finger at you, in a game of finger pointing, means I'm mafia? This is more than suspicious to be quite honest. The only reason I'm not convinced is that it's almost too easy. Also your group of friends you're playing with are dying at an alarming rate to mafia hits (someone else pointed this out to me, can't take credit).
nickenstien;98277
Well you have began your smear campaign based on nothing Mr. Mafia man, so I already expect you to sling more shit my way. ;)
So the fact that I'm pointing a finger at you, in a game of finger pointing, means I'm mafia? This is more than suspicious to be quite honest. The only reason I'm not convinced is that it's almost too easy. Also your group of friends you're playing with are dying at an alarming rate to mafia hits (someone else pointed this out to me, can't take credit).