Angels & Demons Mafia / ROUND 6 - OOC dicussion / ROzbeans 14 years ago

ROUND 6 - OOC dicussion

Lynch - Myraan
Mafia hit - Nickenstien/Professor Vanderkrumpt

Vulash 14 years ago

So right when she is about to get lynched she reveals "jsut enough" to make her worth saving one more round? You don't find that odd?

Vulash 14 years ago

And I want to point out one other thing - several people continue to make accusations that I'm spearheading townie deaths. We've lynched TWO people at my recommendation - one was Nadiya (mafia) and one was Myraan (probably townie, not certain). Boris I went with the consensus - though i did suspect him some I'm not taking blame for him. We've lynched 2 that I thought were bad lynches - Eve (when I saids he was townie we should lynch Nadiya - no one likes to point that out) and Ruth (The one I was absolutely wrong on - I thought we should have lynched gongaa as mafia and didn't think we'd get the SK first try - i was wrong there)

CaptainBinky 14 years ago

No, I find it to be precisely what you would do when you find yourself about to be lynched. You'd find it less weird if she didn't make an attempt to survive?

Vulash 14 years ago

And one more thing about Boris - it was Verileah's and Nadiya's clues that damned him. I'm not going to sit here and take blame for stuff I'm not at fault at any longer.

CaptainBinky 14 years ago

Have I missed something, Vulash? Who's blaming you? We can all choose to vote however we like - nobody is ultimately responsible.

Vulash 14 years ago

CaptainBinky;99096

No, I find it to be precisely what you would do when you find yourself about to be lynched. You'd find it less suspicious if she didn't make an attempt to survive?

By holding IDs hostage as the sheriff? That is now how I see any actual townie trying to live another round

Verileah 14 years ago

For what it's worth, I don't think you're spearheading any innocent deaths on purpose. You're allowed to be wrong. I don't think you're spearheading Sara's death because you're evil*, I just think you're wrong. Which is why it's sad that we can't come to some kind of agreement. You indicated being suspicious of Keriath earlier and I think he is more likely to be mafia than Sara, but now that it comes down to it Keriath is suddenly completely innocent in your eyes?

Well -who- should we lynch then?

*Edit: Er, good, rather - sorry got confused for a sec.

Greywood 14 years ago

At this point, Sara. She has done exactly what she said she would do in terms of "about to get lynched then spill it all". How does it make sense to only spill what you know when you are threatened by a lynch? You want to make yourself a target for a mafia hit but if you actually get hit you aren't going to share the ID's? WHAT SENSE DOES THAT MAKE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME.

Ok, if you have 5 rounds of info, then you know who at least 4 people really are. You have the basis for a network of trusted individuals either by ID or by elimination, especially with this few people left in the game. Sara said she would be ID'ing me or Wystro...where is that information? Oh it never happened because she is full of it. She claimed to ID Vulash, then to know exactly what he was, then to say he wasn't mafia ID'd but was the GF, but then to claim she would figure out who the GF was... its all so convoluted...Pharren could post it all again if he felt inclined I'm sure.

Vulash 14 years ago

CaptainBinky;99098

Have I missed something, Vulash? Who's blaming you? We can all choose to vote however we like - nobody is ultimately responsible.

there have been multiple posts, pms, and other things that keep eluding to me as "failing over and over" and lynching townies. I'm not taking the blame for it (and btw this isn't at you). Some of them are trying to discredit me because I'm influencing votes - I don't see any reason to just go along with that. If people really think they'd have been better off following a different plan and lynching other people -then why did they do anything proactive? it's easy to sit back and let stuff happen and then complain later. Sorry - I'm venting about stuff that has been said to me both on the boards, ghosts threads, and PMs.

I'm not upset for anyone for voting differently by the way - I've tried to make that clear.

Vulash 14 years ago

Greywood;99101

At this point, Sara. She has done exactly what she said she would do in terms of "about to get lynched then spill it all". How does it make sense to only spill what you know when you are threatened by a lynch? You want to make yourself a target for a mafia hit but if you actually get hit you aren't going to share the ID's? WHAT SENSE DOES THAT MAKE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME.

Ok, if you have 5 rounds of info, then you know who at least 4 people really are. You have the basis for a network of trusted individuals either by ID or by elimination, especially with this few people left in the game. Sara said she would be ID'ing me or Wystro...where is that information? Oh it never happened because she is full of it. She claimed to ID Vulash, then to know exactly what he was, then to say he wasn't mafia ID'd but was the GF, but then to claim she would figure out who the GF was... its all so convoluted...Pharren could post it all again if he felt inclined I'm sure.

The other 4 are all conveniently dead.

Verileah - I would lynch Sara. If everyone was to get along and lynch someone - it would be Sara. That is not an emotional response - it's the most likely person I see.

Greywood 14 years ago

And I'm not saying Keriath is completely innocent...but i don't trust you Veri. If you want him dead then I do not.

ROzbeans 14 years ago

i gotta say, this is the most interesting thread I have ever seen in a mafia game =x

Verileah 14 years ago

So Greywood, asserting that both Sara and Keriath are probably townies at this point was...what?

If I haven't made myself clear, I would be willing, at the 11th hour, to lay down arms and vote for someone who is neither sara nor keriath if some of the other people around are willing to do the same.

CaptainBinky 14 years ago

@Vulash: That's not what she did though - she flat out stated her positive ID. The mafia know whether this claim makes her the actual Sheriff or not, we do not.

But look, as I said before - her behaviour strikes me as being that of a townie or an unorthodox Sheriff, but unlikely mafia. Given that, and the tenuous nature of the clues against her I find more compelling reasons to vote for Victor.

BUT BUT BUT - what we absolutely must NOT end up with is a tie. We MUST have one clear Victor (see what I did there?

) so I urge people sitting on the fence to come down one way or the other rather than voting independently. From my perspective I think Victor is the better choice so I would prefer it if that was how the remaining people vote but I can't claim to be in any greater certainty than anyone else.

EDIT: @Verileah - I will do the same. Someone propose a viable third person and if the evidence is compelling I will happily change my vote if that guarantees both no tie and Sara's survival.

ROzbeans 14 years ago

10 mins till i close the vote.

Greywood 14 years ago

The problem Veri, is that I'm not going to want to vote for anyone you do. If you had voted for Sara early on, then I'd suspect she was a townie even more than I currently do. I hope you are not mafia and somehow I can figure that out by votes or something. I'm not really against voting Victor in principle, though I'd probably want to start looking at some of the people we already suspected but have fallen off the list so to speak. Gongaa's spatula still sticks out in my mind quite a bit, but you've been pushing for Gongaa for a while. So in that case, if you were mafia, he probably wouldn't be =x

CaptainBinky 14 years ago

Uhhh... probably not enough time then

I will say this one more time in big letters:

!!!VOTE VICTOR - SAVE SARA!!!

(sorry Keriath if you turn out to be townie)

IT'S CURRENTLY A TIE, IF YOU HAVEN'T VOTED PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE DO!!!

ROzbeans 14 years ago

5 minutes

Vulash 14 years ago

I should have phrased that in a more eloquent manner but it's been a bad day. I was simply attempting to debunk the comments that I'm leading us to our doom - which have been made. I want people to be aware that has not been the case.

Binky I'm considering your proposal. I won't change it to a third person though.

Greywood 14 years ago

Only Gongaa has not voted.