Say Anything.

'Say Anything' is a John Cusak/Cameron Crowe 1989 teen flick. ' A noble underachiever and a beautiful valedictorian fall in love the summer before she goes off to college.' This is actually not what this thread is about, but the message is the same.

Actually no it isn't, I just like imdb.com and the title sounded interesting. /snort

This is not necessarily a vent thread - far from it. This is about saying anything - weather, the bird outside your work window, the fundamental differences between Mormons and catholics, how Law and Order Criminal Intent doesn't get the props it deserves, that I always forget whether it's 'it's' or 'its', that my daughter has a beautiful smile and the first guy that breaks her heart - I'm breaking his knees...it's about anything.

So, say anything.

Verileah 17 years ago
Ooooh, my add ass is going to love this thread.

Oh look, something shiny!
ROzbeans 17 years ago
I immediately thought, 'Her add ass....OH her A.D.D. ass!'

Sartori 17 years ago
Great. Now I'm gonna have "In Your Eyes" going through my head all day...
Mileron 17 years ago
ROzbeans;79954
that my daughter has a beautiful smile and the first guy that breaks her heart - I'm breaking his knees...it's about anything.


Knees?

Aim higher.


It's kinda distracting to eat a very hot chicken sandwich while trying to keep your eyes out of the cleavage abyss of the hot blonde next to you.
Verity 17 years ago
the fundamental differences between Mormons and catholics


Don't know much about Catholicsism (sp?), but I know far more than I ever wanted about Mor(m)onism

Anyone wanna compare with me?
Verileah 17 years ago
Um. Wow I wouldn't even know how to tackle that question Verity :\. But I'm curious, how'd you learn so much about Mormons?
Verity 17 years ago
My folks were mor(m)on's when I was growing up (still are), but as soon as I hit 18, that was it.. I was outta there.
ROzbeans 17 years ago
There's a presidential candidate that is Mormon. Read an article discussing the issues that could arise from potentially judging a man's character because he thinks the garden of Eden is in montana. Does that matter? This man's going to be sitting in the oval office - can you compare being mormon to being a catholic like JFK or being jewish and running for president? Can they compare?
Jinheim 17 years ago
All I know is that a Mormon has a better chance of being elected than an Atheist.
Shaelynn 17 years ago
I don't know very much about Mormons...

but I got about 8 inches of my hair whacked off today. I'm happy, relieved, bouncy, cooler and sad all at the same time. At least I won't be closing it in the car door anymore (hopefully hehe).
Verileah 17 years ago
I've never been 'on the inside' but from what I understand, Mitt Romney is getting bit on both asscheeks here. A lot of non LDS are wary of his religion, which is popularly regarded as 'other' at best and 'evil' at worst. But a lot of Mormons (from what I hear) are not comfortable with the idea of a mormon, whose first duty is to the church, running for president. Then of course there are mormons who are all for a mormon president, because of course acting in the best interest of the church -is- acting in the best interest of the country...right? O_o.

Again, from what I understand, when you go through the temple you make pretty clear and specific promises that you're going to pledge everything you have to the church. I don't think Catholics have something similar, though I can see how people might be concerned about a pope telling the president what to do. I also get the impression that there is much more room for dissent (without getting excommunicated) within the Catholic Church...though I might be confused on that.
Verileah 17 years ago
Diabolica, post pics!
Verity 17 years ago
ROzbeans;79987
There's a presidential candidate that is Mormon. Read an article discussing the issues that could arise from potentially judging a man's character because he thinks the garden of Eden is in montana. Does that matter? This man's going to be sitting in the oval office - can you compare being mormon to being a catholic like JFK or being jewish and running for president? Can they compare?


It's Missouri, not Montana

As for the Mormon president thing, I think the biggest comparison I can think of is this:

As a general rule, *most* catholics go to church on sunday, might read the bible, and occationally attend other functions. But their entire life doesn't revolve around Catholicsm.

Mormons on the other hand, their entire lives *completely* revolve around Mormonism. Every decision that is made, is made based on how it would effect their chances of getting into the "Celestial Kingdom" (the mormon version of Heaven)


Girls, starting at a young age, are taught about domestic stuff, housecleaning, Children, & the like. They're pretty much taught that there's no way to get in heaven, without being Married (in the temple) to a "priesthood holding" man. Males are taught that Women are beneith them, and should abide their rules.
Mormons attend church for 3 hours every sunday , as well as several other activities during the week.

Unlike every other religion, the Mormon leaders are *not* trained. The Bishop (leader of each ward (congregation)) is "called" to that position by higher up's, based on who "god tells them is worthy"
Every year, the youth have to have what is called a "worthiness interview" with the bishop. During this, the bishop asks *VERY* personal questions. Imagine, a grown man (that's not a parent) asking a teenage girl or boy about their sex life.

In order to leave the church, you have to send a "letter of resignation" to Salt lake. Otherwise, your ward will harass you to no end to get you to come back to church.
They have a center in Utah, where they have a ton of people searching public records for non attending members who have moved & such to find them.

The Mormons are also the *ONLY* church that does not release their financial records to the public. If you want to be considered a full fledged member in good standing you *have* to pay tithing (10% of your income before taxes & stuff)
They have their members clean the chapel's, because supposedly there isn't enough money in the church to hire people.... But the Mormon church is building a 2 billion+ mall in Downtown salt lake (exmormon.org article on that)

This is just the tip of the iceberg, there's so much other weirdness, & craziness it's not even funny.
Besides.. who would want a president who was a member of a church that was founded by a Convicted con man/charlatin, who supposedly translated the "golden plates" (into the book of mormon) by looking into a fucking HAT? (see Mormon south park episode, it's accurate according to what the church teaches)
Verity 17 years ago
I also get the impression that there is much more room for dissent (without getting excommunicated) within the Catholic Church...though I might be confused on that.


There's pretty much no room for dissent. (unless of course, you make *tons* of money)
The process for excommunication is pretty one sided. The Leaders (or Elders as they're called) will hold what's called "a court of love", where you basically come by yourself, you're presented with the "Evidence" of your sins, you don't really get a chance to defend yourself, then they boot you out of teh room, & "decide your fate".
ROzbeans 17 years ago
Ok that's freaking me out. No disrespect but...wow.
Verity 17 years ago
ROzbeans;80006
Ok that's freaking me out. No disrespect but...wow.


None taken hun! It's a fucking cult as far as I'm concerned.
Lessa 17 years ago
I only really know what ive heard from my husband and his family.. He gre up in a mormon house.. He ran away when he was 15 .. His mother remained a mormon up until about a year after her husband died.. She was living in Hawaii and worked for Brigham Young University.. a mormon college..'

She fell from a ladder at work, broke her neck..and was dealing with her own medical bills and the costs of her husbands bills he had left behind as well as whatever it costs to live on north shore Oahu.. couldnt pay her tithe so the work and her friends all pretty much shunned her. Wouldnt help her with anything or would flat out refuse her. Hehe that was the end of the church for her.

My husband hated it growing up, he calls them a cult.., not to mention you arent allowed to drink alcohol ( i think) or caffeine!
Vulash 17 years ago
I knwo some very nice mormons.

Anyway I definately don't believe everything they believe - but I do respect that if they are giong to believe something, they don't half ass it like so many others do. "Well I do believe when it tells me that, but....." and then rationalize why they can only do that in moderation.

I had no idea what an add ass was :P

On the subject I think some of the people that frequent the boards are mormons and this is getting kind of heated towards them - I'm just nicely saying lets not make people feel too uncomfortable
ROzbeans 17 years ago
So ok Vulash - you say anything then. =)
Lessa 17 years ago
Its not mormons individually that I would be against.. its the church.. Im pretty non religious but I know why people belong to religions and I can respect it.. just dont try and convert me! haha

We bought a house in missouri.. very near Zion and surrounded by good catholics Amish and Mormons.. hehe im accepting of other people.. though I dont expect them to accept me.